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re: Which musician who died prematurely would go on to accomplish the most?

Posted on 7/29/15 at 3:57 pm to
Posted by Tunasntigers92
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 3:57 pm to
Surprised Bob Marley hasn't come up.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 4:04 pm to
Hendrix
Biggie
Posted by HempHead
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 4:15 pm to
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Surprised Syd Barrett hasn't gotten more votes.



Barrett didn't die too long ago, he just went crazy. Same effect, though, I suppose.

ETA: I'll also add Graham Bond.
This post was edited on 7/29/15 at 4:16 pm
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 4:40 pm to
I'd like to think Jimi.
Posted by Tunasntigers92
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 5:05 pm to
It's too bad he completely lost his mind.
Posted by Oswald
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 5:31 pm to
Miss this guy...


Posted by Big Scrub TX
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 5:32 pm to
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Was going to leave Ozzy to get a degree in classical guitar. That would have been interesting to see what he would have put out.


Yup. Am sad almost daily that Randy Rhoads didn't get a real chance.
Posted by Chitter Chatter
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 5:53 pm to
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I've been listening to a lot of Croce lately.....
New york's not my home and Time in a Bottle are also particularly honest accounts of his life that he beautifully translates into song. His fictional characters (Leroy Brown, Big Jim Walker/Willie McCoy) sound just like folk legend stories as you'd expect


Very well put sir. It's a shame the pilot had to have a heart attack on takeoff.
Posted by Geert Hammink_43
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 6:08 pm to
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He was still just a bass player, though.
What difference does that make? Are bass players not not considered musicians?
He'd still have made up 1/4 of the band. Had he not died, Burton would have won 8 grammy awards, sold over 100 million records, had five records debut at #1, and probably more money than he could ever spend.
Those are some hefty accomplishments.
There aren't many people named in this thread that you could say the same about.
Posted by Tunasntigers92
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 6:37 pm to
So many talented young musicians died in plane crashes.
Posted by Sayre
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 6:38 pm to
I just can't imagine Cliff Burton ever agreeing to let Bob Rock any where near their music. I think he'd have quit the band before letting them go in the direction they took on the Black Album and later.

And I seriously fricked up in not listing Ronnie Van Zandt and Steve Gaines. Steve brought fresh blood and ideas to the band. They'd found their groove again and were going to be around for a long damn time if not for that plane crash.
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Posted by Marco Esquandolas
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 6:57 pm to
Eva Cassidy

Posted by Mizz-SEC
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 7:09 pm to
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I believe that Ronnie Van Zant, the original lead singer of Lynyrd Skynyrd who died in the band's tragic plane crash in 1977, would have continued to do a lot of great things in music and would have further cemented his legacy as a rock icon. He also may have gotten into country music, making his mark there as well. The man was an immensely talented song-writer and was famous for never writing his lyrics down, songs came to Ronnie very naturally and that showed in his music, his songs came straight from his soul.


I agree. Steve Gaines helped reinvigorate the band and Skynyrd would have clearly led the way into modern country.

Also agree with the Buddy Holly and Jim Croce name checks.

On the country tip... It would have been interesting to see how Hank Williams and Patsy Cline evolved.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 8:03 pm to
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Hopeful Doc



Definitely Croce gets a solid vote. Had he lived, he and Gordon Lightfoot could have had an awesome tour 10-15 years ago.

In addition Croce is one of those "I hate you guitarists". His "rhythm" guitar sometimes looked like lead guitar difficulty. Then the little blonde dude was all over the place. Operator is a song that comes to mind for this.
Posted by Tunasntigers92
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 8:10 pm to
Great song.
Posted by TigerRanter
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 8:44 pm to
Otis Redding or Sam Cooke

Two of the best voices ever.
Posted by Tunasntigers92
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 9:06 pm to
A change is gonna come.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 9:41 pm to
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His "rhythm" guitar sometimes looked like lead guitar difficulty.


I remember when I first started playing guitar, I wanted to learn a handful of Jim Croce songs. I think New York's Not My Home, I'll have to say I love you in a song, or Operator was the first one I looked at. It quickly caused me to look to the others. I quickly thought "well, I'll never be a guitarist" and nearly gave up, not realising at the time just how difficult his music is to emulate. He very rapidly changes chords, uses lots of not simply major/minor ones, and throws in incidentals frequently. Operator, like you say, has some parts where I can't tell which one is supposed to be the lead and which is the rhythm. Maury Muelheisen (sp?) and he are both very underrated guitarists. That is what I attempted to say, though quite poorly, when I called his music "interesting." The one I've been listening to recently a lot is "Tomorrow's Gonna Be a Brighter Day." There is a strong bass line that drives the whole song. The lead guitar throughout seems almost like two friends trading licks over an unusually simple (for them) progression (I believe it's just Maury playing lead, but he seems to play in two voices as I listen). If you totally throw the words out, the song is just fun, almost funky. I'm not suggesting that he's writing virtuoso-level stuff, but everything is just an odd familiarly different kind of accessible that, nostalgia of having listened to practically exclusively Jim Croce's greatest hits + Barry Mannilow's Because it's Chrisfmas for the first 8 or so years of my life in my father's car (my main listening room) aside, has just always drawn me in.


For the last week or so I debated starting a thread on Croce's music to see how others would describe it but had decided against it. I can't put my finger on the right way to say "authentic, inviting, and simple without being simple at all."
Posted by Teauxler
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 9:53 pm to
Keith Whitley
Posted by Dandy Lion
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Posted on 7/29/15 at 9:56 pm to
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D Boon

Minutemen were never my cup of tea, however, my younger brother was an absolute fanatic.

I could see this...
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