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re: What is it about Oasis that they can pack out Wembley?
Posted on 7/28/25 at 6:09 pm to Hetfield
Posted on 7/28/25 at 6:09 pm to Hetfield
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They could also do a full stadium run in the U.S. right now instead of just 4 shows & sell them all out in minutes.
LOL- just no……outside of NY-LA they don’t have that sort of draw. They aren’t even on Coldplay’s level in America. The only reason they are pulling these dates off is because they haven’t toured the states in 20 years and New York and LA have the numbers. This tour is a big cash grab because Noel is skint so if they could draw in secondary and tertiary markets they would be doing it. Even in their heyday they were never more than a theater act except in the biggest market where they might be able to do one night in an arena. I remember seeing them in their prime and they were opening for the Black Crowes in a 5,000 seater.
They could have been bigger in America but they shot themselves in the foot by pissing everyone off (record company, promoters, MTV) by acting like yobs telling Americans they are stupid. Closer to the Sex Pistols than U2.
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Posted on 7/29/25 at 10:04 am to 14&Counting
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LOL- just no……outside of NY-LA they don’t have that sort of draw.
I don't think they could do a constant stadium tour for a long period of time, but I definitely think they could do a single tour and sell out stadiums around the country, due to pent up demand from them not touring for nearly 20 years.
And they could for sure do a large venue tour, like Smoothie King Center type shows.
Posted on 7/29/25 at 11:21 am to 14&Counting
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They could have been bigger in America but they shot themselves in the foot by pissing everyone off (record company, promoters, MTV) by acting like yobs telling Americans they are stupid.
this is only part of their issue with cracking America (although big)
their bigger issues were
- not touring on What’s The Story for longer as that was what Americans really knew them for. they rushed into Be Here Now but on that tour everyone in the US was still discovering What’s The Story
- wasting some incredible would be singles as B sides because Noel had such hubris that he thought he would just be able to write hits forever. so many great songs that are staples to Oasis fans and in their set list today were never even released on a record (until Masterplan)
-Be Here Now being a ridiculous album with helicopter sounds, 8 guitar tracks, 9 minute long songs with extra choruses instead of focused, tighter arrangements and continuing with was making them great with What’s The Story … none of these songs could be played on radio as singles and it killed all their momentum stateside. Hubris mixed with too much coke
This post was edited on 7/29/25 at 7:33 pm
Posted on 7/29/25 at 12:57 pm to St Augustine
Lucky you!! I was there via YouTube. Been a fan since day one. Sucks they are only playing in a couple stadiums.
Posted on 7/29/25 at 1:23 pm to Oakbeach
Interview from February 2023 (how all fans felt)
This post was edited on 7/29/25 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 7/29/25 at 7:13 pm to Eighteen
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Be Here Now being a ridiculous album with 8 guitars, 9 minute songs with way too many extra choruses instead of focused on what was making them great. again, hubris (mixed with coke) … none of these songs could be played on radio as singles and it killed all their momentum stateside
There are some really good songs on there too underneath it all and it has become one of my favorites over the years but I’m admittedly a shameless fan.
But you’re correct. They had to settle for don’t go away which is just a poorer version of some of the big morning glory singles. Stand by me, Be here now, my big mouth could’ve easily been singles had they made them a bit tighter and laid off the coke.
Stand by me is one of their best songs imo but much more impactful when they strip it down a bit.
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wasting some incredible would be singles as B sides because Noel had such hubris that he thought he would just be able to write hits forever.
In retrospect if they would’ve just paced themselves and released the master plan (giving a few songs a little more polish like rocking chair) as album 3 instead of a collection of b sides their momentum would’ve been as strong as ever. It’s that good.
This post was edited on 7/29/25 at 7:17 pm
Posted on 7/29/25 at 7:30 pm to St Augustine
Yep. And even Noel has admitted as much now on both of those points. Just arrogance but that same arrogance is what made them great in the first place.
Glad to see them back together, still feels like a dream that it’s happening.
Glad to see them back together, still feels like a dream that it’s happening.
Posted on 7/29/25 at 9:14 pm to Eighteen
I loved that they released great songs as b-sides... A nod to their heroes and times gone by..
I remember being unimpressed with Be Here Now when it was released.. not terrible... just a drop off from the first two records...
Ive been spinning it recently leading up to their shows and I have a better appreciation for it now...
I remember being unimpressed with Be Here Now when it was released.. not terrible... just a drop off from the first two records...
Ive been spinning it recently leading up to their shows and I have a better appreciation for it now...
Posted on 7/30/25 at 8:19 am to East Coast Band
You guys are over thinking this by a mile.
Oasis popularity and support is (primarily) driven by women. Their music hits hard with females.
And when females really want something.....we buy the tickets, flights and hotel rooms.
Oasis popularity and support is (primarily) driven by women. Their music hits hard with females.
And when females really want something.....we buy the tickets, flights and hotel rooms.
Posted on 7/30/25 at 9:09 am to Lakeboy7
When popular bands go away for a long time like Oasis did, then their reunion tour will be massive. I’m guessing this momentum will die off quickly in the U.S. if they keep touring every year.
Posted on 7/30/25 at 1:59 pm to 14&Counting
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What is it about Oasis
It's mind boggling IMO. It's just one of those bands that seemed to take that "Madchester" sound and really take it to pop stratosphere levels. Lyrics can sometimes be cheesy.
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they never really cracked it in the U.S.
I remember them being a pretty big deal mid 90's. Their popular tunes are probably the main reason I can't really get into them. I want to stab my ears when I hear Wonderwall or anything off Morning Glory. But some cuts off their first album are ok.
Posted on 7/30/25 at 4:11 pm to Cdawg
quote:I always liked them and would listen if it came on. I never bought any of their albums. I was way more into other music coming out around the same time
I remember them being a pretty big deal mid 90's. Their popular tunes are probably the main reason I can't really get into them. I want to stab my ears when I hear Wonderwall or anything off Morning Glory.
Way before their “Reunion” I was appreciating their music more than I did back then
Definitely Maybe and Morning Glory was so good.
How can you say this isn’t good?
(A great Noel Vocal)
Posted on 7/30/25 at 9:49 pm to East Coast Band
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I'd expect a half filled amphitheater.
Isn’t all of their US stadium shows already sold out ?
Posted on 7/30/25 at 9:56 pm to STigers
Indeed.
I feel sorry for anyone who can't appreciate this banger.
Posted on 7/31/25 at 5:33 am to East Coast Band
I might catch the Toronto show but honestly don't really know much about them
Posted on 7/31/25 at 8:43 am to TFTC
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Ive been spinning it recently leading up to their shows and I have a better appreciation for it now...
It’s kinda fun to hear what should be the final chorus in a song and then see there’s still 3:49 left to go
Posted on 7/31/25 at 9:30 am to tigerfan84
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Isn’t all of their US stadium shows already sold out ?
Yea, for some reason people expect everyone to share their musical tastes. He doesn't like Oasis, so he assumes no one else does also.
Posted on 7/31/25 at 10:47 am to St Augustine
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It’s kinda fun to hear what should be the final chorus in a song and then see there’s still 3:49 left to go
ALL AROUND THE WOOORLD
Noel presenting D’ya Knowl What I mean to Record Label
Can’t find YouTube of this to embed but it’s so funny This post was edited on 7/31/25 at 2:57 pm
Posted on 7/31/25 at 11:12 am to Eighteen
It’s interesting how Noel candidly understands it now but also always publicly shits on Be Here Now, but at the same time Oasis fans love Be Here Now (in general) as time goes on
This post was edited on 7/31/25 at 11:26 am
Posted on 7/31/25 at 11:17 am to RedHawk
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When popular bands go away for a long time like Oasis did, then their reunion tour will be massive. I’m guessing this momentum will die off quickly in the U.S. if they keep touring every year.
I think this is probably true to some extent. But I also think there is a coming vacuum for legacy acts and something is going to fill that void, deservedly or not. And Oasis, which is popular around the world and can sell out stadiums and big venues in South America and other places - seems primed for it.
Whether they're really sustainable (meaning, can set aside the volatility) enough to tour off and on for the next 20 years is a very good question, but I think people like the idea of seeing major worldwide popular acts that will have staying power, and Oasis fits the bill. They have mega hits, big personalities, big production value (for being pretty so so performers), etc. I think when you ask who the "classic acts" of the 90s are going to be in musical annals, Oasis probably belongs in that conversation, and if they're going to tour heavily for a while, it'll be self-perpetuating to some extent.
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