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was tupac the best rapper ever?

Posted on 5/6/12 at 6:20 pm
Posted by fightingtigers98
Member since Oct 2011
13303 posts
Posted on 5/6/12 at 6:20 pm
he has some really good songs, and now everyone is really shitty.
Posted by Duckie
Tippy Toe, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2010
24314 posts
Posted on 5/6/12 at 6:22 pm to
Obviously this is personal opinion, but here's mine.

Tupac was probably the most influential rapper thus far, but I do not think he was the best.

I never really liked a lot of his stuff. I actually preferred biggie to him.

Anyways, he's was still very very good.
Posted by tigerbru17
Billy in 4C
Member since Jan 2009
10260 posts
Posted on 5/6/12 at 6:25 pm to
Read his lyrics. Then read modern day "best rappers alive."

Oh and even if he is considerd to be the best ever, which Im fine with, I personally think Biggie had more talent as far as natural "rapping" goes.
Posted by Jerry the Clown
The Ayatollah of Rock and Rolla
Member since Nov 2011
3272 posts
Posted on 5/6/12 at 6:34 pm to
Pac is my personal favorite, but as far as the best lyricist goes, Tupac, Nas, Biggie, and Andre 3000 are all interchangeable, IMO.
Posted by jose canseco
Houston via Houma via BR via NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
5667 posts
Posted on 5/6/12 at 7:33 pm to
No question about it, IMO. Hell, they even made a hologram of him. I'd pay $40 to see hologram tupac at HOB.

So many songs about so many different issues. I don't think All Eyez on Me left my car cd player my entire senior year of high school. That 1 album is better than most rappers greatest hits.
Posted by LSUSaintsHornets
Based Pelican
Member since Feb 2008
7310 posts
Posted on 5/6/12 at 7:40 pm to
I think he was definitely among the best and the most influential, but his flow wasn't at the level his lyrics were at.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116222 posts
Posted on 5/6/12 at 8:01 pm to
Personally i like Biggie more

Party and bullshite/Big Poppa are still heavily in my rotation
Posted by TFTC
Chicago, Il
Member since May 2010
23609 posts
Posted on 5/6/12 at 8:02 pm to
Is it too "old school" posturing to submit Rakim? I guess that is the era when I last had interest in rap...
This post was edited on 5/6/12 at 8:05 pm
Posted by Preys on Gumps
Wrigleyville
Member since May 2012
2099 posts
Posted on 5/6/12 at 8:16 pm to
Coming to post Raki,m....good call

1. BIG
1a. Rakim
2 2pac
2a Guru
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
130986 posts
Posted on 5/6/12 at 8:27 pm to
Christopher Wallace.
Posted by T1gerWonder
Member since May 2011
4463 posts
Posted on 5/6/12 at 8:32 pm to
Andre 3000, B.I.G, tupac are at the top IMO. I'm more of a 3000/outkast fan so I'd take 3000 over the other two
Posted by WelcomeToDeathValley
1st & 1st
Member since Aug 2006
16947 posts
Posted on 5/6/12 at 8:47 pm to
Nas, but I "get" the Rakim, Andre 3000, and BIG love
quote:

now everyone is really shitty.

People just have to look a little harder...guys who were influenced by Enter The Arena, Paid In Full, Illmatic, etc. wont sell a ton of albums or gain massive mainstream appeal like 15+ years ago.

theres also nothing wrong with listening to shite that was put out in the 80s 90s
...if it's new to you and/or you still enjoy it, then who cares.
This post was edited on 5/6/12 at 8:50 pm
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
87705 posts
Posted on 5/6/12 at 9:05 pm to
I still jam to this like every day LINK
Posted by kadillak
Member since Nov 2007
7641 posts
Posted on 5/6/12 at 9:07 pm to
quote:

People just have to look a little harder...guys who were influenced by Enter The Arena, Paid In Full, Illmatic, etc. wont sell a ton of albums or gain massive mainstream appeal like 15+ years ago.

This.

For example, Jay Electronica is a current rapper and the argument can certainly be made that he's one of the best technical rappers of all time. But, obviously not many people know who he is and so he doesn't have much impact on the industry as a whole. Kendrick Lamar is a guy that can potentially be on that level too, but also won't have the influence that Pac did. Between the commercialization and variety of styles that the genre provides now, you're not really going to have another Pac or Biggie in those regards, imo.
Posted by castorinho
13623 posts
Member since Nov 2010
87705 posts
Posted on 5/6/12 at 9:08 pm to
quote:

Personally i like Biggie more


LINK
Posted by floyd of pink
Metry
Member since Nov 2011
3335 posts
Posted on 5/6/12 at 9:08 pm to
i agree with christopher wallace being the best, but i think nas should be considered a very close second
Posted by Patrick O Rly
y u do dis?
Member since Aug 2011
41187 posts
Posted on 5/6/12 at 9:13 pm to
Not best ever. One of the best, yes. I know this really isn't a category, but he probably had the biggest/best swagger of any rapper.
Posted by TigerWise
Front Seat of an Uber
Member since Sep 2010
35131 posts
Posted on 5/6/12 at 9:43 pm to
I think Pac is the greatest ever. 1st artist to do a show after his death. I really would love to see what Pac would be rapping about today. I'm sure being older and more mature he would have gotten away from the gangsta rap crap and used his skills to be more positive and up lifting. I truly believe he could have a positive impact in today's world and help reverse the it's cool to be a gangsta thug mental he created in the 90's that's plaguing the young black males today.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116222 posts
Posted on 5/6/12 at 9:59 pm to
quote:

I think Pac is the greatest ever. 1st artist to do a show after his death. I really would love to see what Pac would be rapping about today. I'm sure being older and more mature he would have gotten away from the gangsta rap crap and used his skills to be more positive and up lifting. I truly believe he could have a positive impact in today's world and help reverse the it's cool to be a gangsta thug mental he created in the 90's that's plaguing the young black males today.


And this is what dying young will do for your PR team
Posted by Nativebullet
Plano, TX
Member since Feb 2011
5171 posts
Posted on 5/6/12 at 10:03 pm to
he was at the time, but now my vote goes to Eminem.

Eminem
Pac
Ice Cube
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