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re: Thoughts on Pearl Jam
Posted on 7/13/16 at 8:44 am to Finkle is Einhorn
Posted on 7/13/16 at 8:44 am to Finkle is Einhorn
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about 6 months. Go back and listen to Ten and Vs and Vitalogy. Listen to the lyrics. Those songs are VERY personal to Ed. They have a really deep meaning to him. He goes from wondering if anybody will ever hear these songs to belting them out at a sold out Madison Square Garden. If you've seen PJ20 they tell the story about the first time he sang Release and he just went behind the stage after singing it and was just a wreck because it is so personal.
People also forget that those 2 albums were his life's work for lyrics to that point. This is true for all bands that write their own stuff. Some take time to come into their own, but most start huge and never live up to what their first 20-25 songs were.
It reminds me of the Game of Thrones author. Spent his LIFE writing 5 (I think) great novels. Modern tv now says, "sweet what else you got?" Chop chop fricker. We've got a season to start. Similar happens in music. You're expected to crank out an album a year.
Ten and VS. were awesome. Vitalogy was just a notch below. Everything after had a great song or two on them, but weren't albums you could listen to from beginning to end. Vedder went through a period and so did the whole band. Hard to be heartbroken and hungry forever. Andys death becomes a memory. Vedders dads death too. The breakup that caused him to write Black. They all got rich and happy. Rich and happy is a great place to write Bro Country, not pearl jam songs. It took tragedy (Denmark stampede) and heroes dying (Ramones) for Vedder to get sad again and write.
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Posted on 7/13/16 at 9:38 am to LSU alum wannabe
Pearl Jam has always been, and always will be one of my fav bands. i wore out my 10 and Vitalogy CD's when i was in High School.
even saw them live back in 95 I believe - great show.
even saw them live back in 95 I believe - great show.
Posted on 7/13/16 at 4:45 pm to Thracken13
If you don't have the Touring Band 2000 DVD, get it.
This post was edited on 7/13/16 at 4:46 pm
Posted on 7/13/16 at 6:01 pm to LSU alum wannabe
This is all very true. The hardest thing to do as a musician is to write good lyrics when you're happy. There is a certain state of mind one must be in to write authentic music. Without it, everything just sounds forced, fake, or contrived (see Bro Country). Generally, that place is one of deep despair, regret, longing, or sadness. When one is happy in their life, often times, the only way to write anything decent is to put one's self back in the frame of mind from when they weren't so happy. To purposefully depress one's self with stale emotions and old heartbreaks. This is an absolutely tedious process, and one can only draw so much water from that well.
There are 2 forces that work against successful artists to torpedo their songwriting abilities: time and happiness. It is difficult to write good music on a schedule. As long as there are pressing needs on your mind, it is very difficult to get to that mental state of pure music when the instrument plays itself and your soul expresses itself unfiltered. Many, in a pinch, use alcohol or drugs to get to that state which leads to dependence. There are few things more destructive to the artist than success.
There are 2 forces that work against successful artists to torpedo their songwriting abilities: time and happiness. It is difficult to write good music on a schedule. As long as there are pressing needs on your mind, it is very difficult to get to that mental state of pure music when the instrument plays itself and your soul expresses itself unfiltered. Many, in a pinch, use alcohol or drugs to get to that state which leads to dependence. There are few things more destructive to the artist than success.
This post was edited on 7/13/16 at 6:05 pm
Posted on 7/13/16 at 7:51 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Love that goddamn solo.
"Alive"
Posted on 7/13/16 at 11:07 pm to LSUballs
Porch is their opus magnam.
Posted on 7/13/16 at 11:25 pm to nobigdeal69
Growing up as a kid I always remembered hearing the iconic songs from Ten but I never really knew all too much about Pearl Jam because their mainstream flare faded by the time I was really into music. I stumbled upon the PJ20 documentary one night on Netflix and I was blown away at how powerful that thing was. After watching it I dove head first into being a hardcore PJ fan. I would workout and jog to their music every day. I would sit on YouTube and watch old concerts in complete amazement and jealousy. I would watch the pinkpop 92 concert and unplugged over and over again. They became a huge part of my life. Incredible band that I finally got the pleasure of seeing this year.
I think the beauty of their music having a different feel to each album is that it lives on forever speaking to you at different times in your life. The new stuff really makes you grow with the band. I don't know, that's just me. Different albums for different moods.
Side note: I am jealous as hell of all of you that were in your 20's in the early 90's. Our music freaking sucks.
I think the beauty of their music having a different feel to each album is that it lives on forever speaking to you at different times in your life. The new stuff really makes you grow with the band. I don't know, that's just me. Different albums for different moods.
Side note: I am jealous as hell of all of you that were in your 20's in the early 90's. Our music freaking sucks.
This post was edited on 7/13/16 at 11:27 pm
Posted on 7/14/16 at 12:04 am to tigerbru17
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Growing up as a kid I always remembered hearing the iconic songs from Ten but I never really knew all too much about Pearl Jam because their mainstream flare faded by the time I was really into music. I stumbled upon the PJ20 documentary one night on Netflix and I was blown away at how powerful that thing was. After watching it I dove head first into being a hardcore PJ fan. I would workout and jog to their music every day. I would sit on YouTube and watch old concerts in complete amazement and jealousy. I would watch the pinkpop 92 concert and unplugged over and over again. They became a huge part of my life. Incredible band that I finally got the pleasure of seeing this year.
I think the beauty of their music having a different feel to each album is that it lives on forever speaking to you at different times in your life. The new stuff really makes you grow with the band. I don't know, that's just me. Different albums for different moods.
Side note: I am jealous as hell of all of you that were in your 20's in the early 90's. Our music freaking sucks.
I completely agree. Ten was one of the first CDs I ever owned, but that was pretty much all I knew about them. I was pretty young when I bought it, and well after it came out. Now, 15 years later, I'm just getting in to everything else they have come out with.
I guess I'm amazed that my favorite songs are those that never got radio play. Hell, some of my favorites aren't even on actual Pearl Jam albums i.e. I got id, state of love and trust, breath...
I'm also a big fan of Ed. I'm sure a lot of people despise him because of the direction he took the band, but I kind of like it. I like his solo stuff a lot too.
Posted on 7/14/16 at 12:08 am to TigerRanter
Just watched the touring band 2000 dvd, it's badass. The full show is on YouTube if anyone is interested.
Posted on 7/14/16 at 12:43 am to nobigdeal69
Ten is my favorite album but Elderly Woman behind the Counter in a Small Town is my favorite song by them.
Posted on 7/14/16 at 12:46 am to Tingle
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Love that goddamn solo
First time I heard it I was hooked. To me, it's more representative of the Seattle Sound than anything Nirvana put out.
Posted on 7/14/16 at 1:27 am to tigerbru17
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Side note: I am jealous as hell of all of you that were in your 20's in the early 90's. Our music freaking sucks.
Congrats for coming to that realization.
As far as the OP, best concert I've ever been to was RHCP on the Blood Sugar tour with Smashing Pumpkins and Pearl Jam as opening acts in 1991. Both bands were new to the scene and still very raw. I agree with those who say Pearl Jam kind of took a step back after Vitalogy. For me personally (being a drummer) - I hated them letting Dave Abbruzese go. Never have been sold on Matt Cameron with Pearl Jam.
Posted on 7/14/16 at 9:04 am to nobigdeal69
quote:As am I. I'm a huge Ed fan. For whatever reason the trendy thing to do is hate on the guy. For me it's his obvious passion for true original music that gets me. He's all about the music. Like many have stated, for years he poured his soul into the lyrics. Very emotional music. I also think at the time his voice was very unique. Before the Creeds and Nicklebacks of the world commercialized his style, that voice was gold.
Im also a big fan of Ed. I'm sure a lot of people despise him because of the direction he took the band, but I kind of like it. I like his solo stuff a lot too.
Posted on 7/14/16 at 9:08 am to RogerTheShrubber
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First time I heard it I was hooked. To me, it's more representative of the Seattle Sound than anything Nirvana put out.
I don't want to turn this into a Nirvana vs PJ thread, but Smells Like Teen Spirit goes hand and hand with Alive as far as defining the Seattle Sound. I could hear both of those songs every day and never get tired of them.
Posted on 7/14/16 at 9:23 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Love that goddamn solo
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First time I heard it I was hooked. To me, it's more representative of the Seattle Sound than anything Nirvana put out.
Alive is a transcendent song.
Top 10 song all time for me.
Posted on 7/14/16 at 10:12 am to tigerbru17
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As am I. I'm a huge Ed fan. For whatever reason the trendy thing to do is hate on the guy.
A lot of that is politics. As we age we become more conservative. Ed never has. People that pile on him now for political views are clownish. Did you not EVER listen to the guy? Unplugged during Porch he stands on a stool and scrawls pro choice stuff all over himself. The Vs. album had WMA on it which was about.... White cops beating or killing (can't recall) a black suspect. This is 20 years ago.
He has always been political. It's sad if you let that stop making you listen to great music. His message and views have never changed. I guess if you want to get nostalgic at my age and not get your conservative Jimmies rustled, you need a Color Me Bad CD.
Posted on 7/14/16 at 10:31 am to LSU alum wannabe
Who can forget Bu$hleaguer
Posted on 7/14/16 at 11:42 am to nobigdeal69
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Bu$hleaguer
I skip this song always.
Has nothing to do with politics.
Posted on 7/14/16 at 12:26 pm to tigerbru17
I could listen to Lightning Bolt from start to finish. Great album and can't wait for the next studio album, which maybe late this year
Posted on 7/14/16 at 12:42 pm to nobigdeal69
My favorite band. Seen them multiple times and they sound better every time. I love all their albums. I'm biased but I don't have a negative thing to say. I'm just glad they still tour and put out new music.
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