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re: The Beatles: does their music hold up?

Posted on 6/30/12 at 10:35 am to
Posted by BrockLanders
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Posted on 6/30/12 at 10:35 am to
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What are your favorite songs that wrote?


Achilles Last Stand

Dancing Days

The Rain Song

Trampled Underfoot

Houses Of The Holy (the song on PG)

Carouselambra

In The Light

Wearing And Tearing


That's a few to start with.


I understand being sick to death of Led Zeppelin songs that are constantly played on the radio, but they put out far too much quality music to say that they had no songs that were worth a damn. They influenced a gazillion bands - maybe not quite the same amount as The Beatles, but they were damn influential.
This post was edited on 6/30/12 at 10:40 am
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 6/30/12 at 11:20 am to
I'm saying that they didn't write the majority of their songs.
Posted by blueslover
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Posted on 6/30/12 at 12:54 pm to
kinda late here but...

as far as "holding up" I say a resounding yes. You can argue over the merits and quality of their catalogue but their place in music history is cemented. The aspect of being cultural icons of the era cannot be separated from the songs. Anyone alive in the 60s will relate to 3 essential questions...
Where were you when Kennedy was assassinated?
Ginger or Mary Ann?
Where did you watch the Beatles on Ed Sullivan?

I Wanna Hold Your Hand is a pop ditty of the era. Twist N Shout added some screaming that was primarily only found on 'race' records before. They continued on to 'Why Don't We Do It In The Road'. They and their songs were as close to being social statements of the times as you'll ever find. Perhaps more than you'll ever see again. Taxman, All You Need Is Love, Revolution, may seem innocuous now but they were cutting edge for then. They weren't the first but it was unbelievably influential when they introduced mind altering drugs through songs like I Am The Walrus and Tomorrow Never Knows.

We're really just coming to the end of the first generation of HiFi to Stereo artists ending. I think you'll see many artists works "hold up" better because of the quality of recordings. There may have been earlier performers greater than Elvis or Miles Davis (for example) but because of no or poor recordings they cannot be appreciated the same way. I think Hendrix leads and Beatles melodies will still be esteemed and appreciated centuries into the future cuz of this.
Posted by BrockLanders
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Posted on 6/30/12 at 3:01 pm to
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I'm saying that they didn't write the majority of their songs.


In that case, who wrote the Led Zeppelin catalog if wasn't written by Page/Plant/Jones/Bonham?
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 6/30/12 at 3:20 pm to
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In that case, who wrote the Led Zeppelin catalog if wasn't written by Page/Plant/Jones/Bonham?


You want me to google it for you?
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 6/30/12 at 3:36 pm to
Posted by BrockLanders
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Posted on 6/30/12 at 3:44 pm to
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You want me to google it for you?


Please, yes! What did they steal on Led Zeppelin IV, Houses Of The Holy, Physical Graffiti, Presence, In Thrpugh The Out Door, and Coda?

Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 6/30/12 at 4:26 pm to
This isn't news. half of eveything in the zep catolog is either a nick or a cover. but that’s not the point – they ripped off a whole culture, a whole genre or two, and were self-indulgent egomanics to boot.
Posted by bobbyray21
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Posted on 6/30/12 at 4:42 pm to
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Posted by TheDoc This isn't news. half of eveything in the zep catolog is either a nick or a cover. but that’s not the point – they ripped off a whole culture, a whole genre or two,.



Elaborate
Posted by bobbyray21
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Posted on 6/30/12 at 4:46 pm to
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Can't wait for your next one about how you don't understand all this Bob Dylan hype and that you think he sucks at guitar.


You are kindly invited to re-read my original post.
Posted by bobbyray21
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Posted on 6/30/12 at 4:50 pm to
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quote: "guy who wants people to think he is smart" Don't say this. And then say.... quote: obviated


You don't know what that word means? Are you the guy that posted about how smart you were?

EDIT: that was another guy, not you.
This post was edited on 6/30/12 at 4:55 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 6/30/12 at 5:03 pm to
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and were self-indulgent egomanics to boot.


Has nothing to do with demeaning their music. More power to them.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 6/30/12 at 5:06 pm to
So is all this anti-Beatle shite just whiners bitter that it's not Zep that's #1?
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
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Posted on 6/30/12 at 5:15 pm to
I don't care if the Beatles are #1.

I still prefer Zepplin.
Posted by Redacted
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Posted on 6/30/12 at 6:44 pm to
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"what's the big deal with the Beatles, anyway?"


Nailed it. Never liked them and it's basically a fact that most people say they like them because it's the cool thing to do. Not a single person I know that claims to "absolutely love the Beatles" actually listens to their music on a regular basis. In fact I've yet to hear many of them listen to the Beatles at all.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 6/30/12 at 6:53 pm to
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Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 6/30/12 at 6:57 pm to
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most people say they like them because it's the cool thing to do


it's cooler to hate on them now
Posted by Redacted
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Posted on 6/30/12 at 6:59 pm to
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it's cooler to hate on them now


Guess I was ahead of the game.
Posted by OldTigahFot
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Posted on 6/30/12 at 10:44 pm to
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it's basically a fact that most people say they like them because it's the cool thing to do.


If you were making this statement about the president I might agree with you. However, in regards to The Beatles, you can't back this up with anything but anecdotal support.

In my opinion, there seems to be an awful lot of Beatle fans, even on this board, who weren't even born when the band debuted (see how that works).
Posted by VOR
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Posted on 6/30/12 at 10:47 pm to
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What did they steal on Led Zeppelin IV, Houses Of The Holy, Physical Graffiti, Presence, In Thrpugh The Out Door, and Coda?


Oh, you mean after they began to suck. I see.
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