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re: Question for song writers. How do you put together a song like this?
Posted on 12/4/23 at 6:32 pm to Carson123987
Posted on 12/4/23 at 6:32 pm to Carson123987
Paul McCartney on writing "Yesterday":
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I remember mulling over the tune 'Yesterday', and suddenly getting these little one-word openings to the verse. I started to develop the idea ... da-da da, yes-ter-day, sud-den-ly, fun-il-ly, mer-il-ly and Yes-ter-day, that's good. All my troubles seemed so far away. It's easy to rhyme those a's: say, nay, today, away, play, stay, there's a lot of rhymes and those fall in quite easily, so I gradually pieced it together from that journey. Sud-den-ly, and 'b' again, another easy rhyme: e, me, tree, flea, we, and I had the basis of it
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Posted on 12/4/23 at 6:38 pm to Kafka
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Classic if almost certainly apocryphal Broadway story:
Mrs Jerome Kern and Mrs Oscar Hammerstein were at a party. Mrs Kern introduced herself by saying, "My husband wrote 'Old Man River'".
To which Mrs Hammerstein replied, " No, my husband wrote 'Old Man River'. Her husband wrote, 'Daaah dah, dah dah'".
Damned if Paul Robeson's rendition doesn't get me every time...
Posted on 12/4/23 at 6:53 pm to Joshjrn
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Damned if Paul Robeson's rendition doesn't get me every time...
I remember my grandfather singing that song in my youth. I can still sing it today. Love that song.
I even wrote a tribute to him about his life to the same melody
From meager paupers,
And times hard scrabble,
The seeds sprout ever,
Amidst the rabble,
Though toils may tarnish,
Rough hard as gravel,
These ties that bind us,
Are not unraveled,
That old man river,
It just keeps rolling along
Ye’ve grown up beauty,
And fruits aplenty,
Did well your duty,
Fair wise and gently,
You fought on bravely,
Your lands are plenty,
Your seeds sown truly,
Now feed the many,
But old man River,
He keeps on rolling,
He don’t say nothing,
He must know something,
Oh old man River,
He just keeps rolling along
Posted on 12/4/23 at 6:54 pm to James11111
Louisiana Legand Tony Joe White:
“I’ve never really given that much thought,” he bemusedly drawled while looking at the wall, where a painting of a Gretsch guitar, done by his friend Michael McDonald, was hanging. “Before I go on stage I’ve got butterflies, until I hit the first lick, and then it’s down home. It’s given to you, and this thing’s been given to me from Above, I’m sure of that. When words come by me, or a guitar lick comes by me, and I sit down by the fire, or go sit down by the river … I really try to do it the best way possible that I can. I had such a good start with ‘Polk Salad Annie’ and ‘Rainy Night in Georgia’ that I had a little ladder to start with, so over the years I’ve been able to stay with the music. Play in Europe, Australia, then come home, rest awhile, start a fire and have some ideas poppin’ up. Come down, I mean. So I’m really blessed and I try to stay with it.”
“I’ve never really given that much thought,” he bemusedly drawled while looking at the wall, where a painting of a Gretsch guitar, done by his friend Michael McDonald, was hanging. “Before I go on stage I’ve got butterflies, until I hit the first lick, and then it’s down home. It’s given to you, and this thing’s been given to me from Above, I’m sure of that. When words come by me, or a guitar lick comes by me, and I sit down by the fire, or go sit down by the river … I really try to do it the best way possible that I can. I had such a good start with ‘Polk Salad Annie’ and ‘Rainy Night in Georgia’ that I had a little ladder to start with, so over the years I’ve been able to stay with the music. Play in Europe, Australia, then come home, rest awhile, start a fire and have some ideas poppin’ up. Come down, I mean. So I’m really blessed and I try to stay with it.”
Posted on 12/4/23 at 6:56 pm to Willie Stroker
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Thank you. Someone needed to please the OT’s broadway show tunes crowd.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 7:14 pm to nealnan8
I think Buck Owens wrote the music to Buckeroo first.
Since it’s an instrumental song, no lyrics.
Since it’s an instrumental song, no lyrics.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 7:23 pm to Joshjrn
quote:Careful, it's a show tune
Damned if Paul Robeson's rendition doesn't get me every time.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 7:24 pm to Kafka
"Hey man, nobody said we were as good as Johnny Mercer." - Bob Dylan, 1980s
Posted on 12/4/23 at 7:43 pm to Kafka
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Careful, it's a show tune
On the off chance anyone is paying attention to my posts, I haven't exactly made a secret out of my enjoyment of Broadway musical theater
Posted on 12/4/23 at 8:15 pm to Joshjrn
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I haven't exactly made a secret out of my enjoyment of Broadway musical theater
Some of those lyrics writers were incredible. Worth paying attention to.
There wasn't much left to interpretation, although they would use quite a bit of inuendo, it was the obvious type that the audience would understand.
The heyday of that type of songwriting was a different time though, when people still wrote letters to each other and sent them in the mail, and talked to each other at the courthouse and general store.
Verbal communication of thoughts and ideas was an important skill. Not so much anymore.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 8:23 pm to auggie
As much as I enjoy the classics, don't sleep on modern Broadway. Still plenty of excellent shows being produced.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 8:37 pm to Joshjrn
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As much as I enjoy the classics, don't sleep on modern Broadway. Still plenty of excellent shows being produced.
There may be, but I've gotten to a certain point in age and time left, where I have to write and work on my own stuff, more than I listen to new stuff.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 8:51 pm to auggie
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There may be, but I've gotten to a certain point in age and time left, where I have to write and work on my own stuff, more than I listen to new stuff.
Still, grabbing dinner and then getting to experience live theater makes for a hell of an evening. But, I appreciate that's a bit dependent on where one lives and how much of a trip that would necessitate
Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:34 am to James11111
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Question for song writers. How do you put together a song like this?
I can only speak for myself.
I've written over a hundred completed songs.
For me, there's no set formula.
It can come about from "noodling" on the guitar, it can be because I want to express a particular sentiment, it can be complete happenstance, or (the best way) I'm asked to write a song and given certain parameters for that song.
One of the best songs I've ever written came about because of a fist-fight I was once in
....Posted on 12/5/23 at 6:48 am to James11111
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I've never been in a band.
I"ve been in lots of bands.
It always happens like this: Guitar player comes to rehearsal, chomping at the bit and says " Duuuuuude, I've got an incredible song and you all need to here it!!"
"Ok, let's here it"....
Guitar player proceeds to do guitar things, pleased as Hell with himself.
It's at that point I have to tell him."Yo, that was great, but what you have is a RIFF, not a song"....
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