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re: Power Pop: An Intro

Posted on 8/25/12 at 1:24 pm to
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 8/25/12 at 1:24 pm to
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"Millionaires Are Getting Young" by an Australian band called Mink Jaguar. Power pop fans should check it out.

Unfortunately it's not on YouTube, so no link


Still not on YouTube, but it is on MySpace (remember that?)

LINK
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 8/25/12 at 1:33 pm to
Posted by TigerRad
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Posted on 8/25/12 at 5:38 pm to
Fountains of Wayne is the first band I think of


so damn catchy


and so is this

Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 8/25/12 at 5:43 pm to
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the new pornographers


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Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 8/25/12 at 10:16 pm to
Dressy Bessy hasn't been mentioned. Nor has Sloan. Love them, too.

Power pop pretty much starts with Big Star and ends (currently) with the New Pornographers. Throw in the Smithereens and I think you hit the three major bands of the genre of the past three decades.

Love power pop. Great genre that's just a bunch of fun.
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Posted on 8/25/12 at 10:25 pm to
love power pop... i'd love to cover a big star song sometime
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 8/25/12 at 10:36 pm to
Grand Funk was ab-so-fricking-lutely NOT power pop
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 8/25/12 at 10:42 pm to
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Power pop pretty much starts with Big Star
Power Pop goes back to the Killer B's: Beach Boys, Beatles, and Byrds. The mid '60s were a golden age for the genre, lasting until the heavier sounds came in with heavy metal.

The reason Badfinger, The Raspberries, and yes Big Star stand out among early '70s acts is because they continued the BeachleByrd tradition, while virtually every other band was aping Zep, The Allmans or the Eagles.

Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 8/25/12 at 10:46 pm to
See, and I view Big Star as trying to recapture the pop of the Beatles sound. They kind of predate power pop. They were just the Beatles.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 8/25/12 at 10:49 pm to
Badfinger predates them anyway

The sound power pop goes back to the '60s (as does the term, but let's not go there) and that's what matters.
Posted by Duane Dibbley
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Posted on 8/26/12 at 2:37 am to
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Grand Funk was ab-so-fricking-lutely NOT power pop


Really? ..It appears your definition of pop is different than mine.
Back in the day everyone knew the song's I listed.
Which to my understanding defines POP.
And, If you've listened to any Grand Funk, You know that everything they play is played with power.
That should be power pop then; right?

Badfinger so good
If they hadn't signed with Apple who know's.

Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 8/26/12 at 3:47 am to
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Back in the day everyone knew the song's I listed

Everybody knew Tammy Wynette too but that doesn't make her power pop
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If you've listened to any Grand Funk, You know that everything they play is played with power.

By that logic Black Sabbath would be power pop

Wikipedia: "Power pop is a popular musical genre that draws its inspiration from 1960s British and American pop and rock music. It typically incorporates a combination of musical devices such as strong melodies, crisp vocal harmonies, economical arrangements and prominent guitar riffs. Instrumental solos are usually kept to a minimum, and blues elements are largely downplayed."
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 8/26/12 at 8:11 am to
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Really?
Yes, really. Power PopGFR would be:
Arena Rock
Boogie Rock
Detroit Rock
Hard Rock
Album Rock
Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 8/26/12 at 8:30 am to
Yeah, you don't want to go back to the term "power pop" because it was used by the Who to describe thier sound, and they aren't thought of as power pop. I don't view the 1960s bands as power pop because they were simply pop at the time (and Badfinger, while great, were also contemporaries of the Beatles).

The genre of power pop was an attempt to recapture the Beatle sound. It is, in a way, a backwards looking genre. Of course, it looks back to bands that were amazingly good.

Then again, I'm breaking my personal rule to never get involved in a genre definitional debate. If you want Badfinger and the Beatles to be power pop, knock yourself out. All genres have slippery definitions. I'm just telling you what I mean by power pop.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 8/26/12 at 8:47 am to
And it may be splitting hairs, but I'd put the Byrds in Jangle Pop. Badfinger in Power pop.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 8/26/12 at 8:52 am to
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Yeah, you don't want to go back to the term "power pop" because it was used by the Who to describe thier sound, and they aren't thought of as power pop.


From what I understand, this meaning of the term is still sometimes used in England.

For whatever reason, the meaning of the term "power pop" shifted in the US, from describing The Who and The Move to what might be called the hard folk-rock sound (note that Townshend in the Wikipedia quote is essentially talking about this style, Beach Boys and Beatles, as being the origin of power pop). And the Who have some tracks -- such as the classic anti-smoking commercial "Little Willy" -- that could be considered power pop in the Yank sense.

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I don't view the 1960s bands as power pop because they were simply pop at the time (and Badfinger, while great, were also contemporaries of the Beatles)


I really don't understand this attitude. It's kind of like saying Chinatown is film noir, but Out Of The Past isn't. Power pop existed in the 1960s. Some of my very favorite examples of the genre, such as the already posted "What Am I Gonna Do" by The Dovers and "Going All The Way" by The Squires, are from that glorious period of 1965-6.

If you think "No Matter What" is not power pop I really don't know what else to say. We'll just have to agree to disagree.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 8/26/12 at 8:54 am to
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And it may be splitting hairs, but I'd put the Byrds in Jangle Pop. Badfinger in Power pop


NOW WE'RE PICKIN' SOME NITS

Posted by TFTC
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Posted on 8/26/12 at 9:10 am to
I dont know the definition of Power Pop, but I know it when I hear it...

It's funny that it has never been a huge genre, but every generation has its share of great bands... and at its best, may be my favorite sound...

Mayflies USA - The Greatest Thing

Broken West - Down in the Valley

Velvet Crush - Why Not Your Baby (cover of Gene Clark tune, with more of a country slant... but a good power pop band)
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 8/26/12 at 11:32 am to
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Mayflies USA


The Apple

Change in the Weather

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