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Posted on 11/30/19 at 8:17 am to
Posted by TheFretShack
Member since Oct 2015
1240 posts
Posted on 11/30/19 at 8:17 am to
Cleaning and polishing: I use naphtha to "clean," polish to "polish" on all guitars on the bench. VM&P natphtha is sold in the paint section in quart cans at home improvement stores. If you don't want a quart (it will last the average player forever), get a small bottle of Ronsonol or Zippo lighter fluid. It's pretty much the same thing.

Apply a dot to a cotton cloth (old T-shirt) and use it to "clean" painted and glossed/satined surfaces (the matte finish on the 114CE), plus plastics, metals, all EXCEPT unfinished woods (rosewood fingerboard, bridge). You can use naphtha to clean those areas if they are filthy, sludged, but use a conditioning oil afterwards because the naphtha will remove the wood's natural surface oils too.

To clean and condition the fingerboard, use
* Rosewood, ebony, pau ferro (modern MIM Fender): Dunlop Lemon Oil. Gerlitz "Guitar Honey" and D'Addario/Planet Waves "Hydrate" are also good conditioners for unfinished, dark woods.
* Finished maple, gloss or satin: Naphtha
* Unfinished/oiled maple: Cotton cloth, no chemicals.

For hard poly finishes and satins, I use Dunlop 65 polish. It's mild and silicon free. For nitros and delicate and especially aged and checked (clear crackled with age) finishes, I use StewMac's Preservation Polish. Use a clean cotton cloth with either.

I avoid waxes, carnubas, etc. They build up over time and are counter productive.

Do not use Pledge, Armor All, Windex, Fantastic, Fabuloso, Simple Green, etc., on any component of your guitar. Your guitar is not a kitchen, a bathroom or a car or boat interior. Do not treat it like one.
Posted by TheCurmudgeon
Not where I want to be
Member since Aug 2014
1481 posts
Posted on 11/30/19 at 10:43 am to
quote:

Also, who said point your knuckles at the ceiling instead of the wall has instantly made me sit here and over analyze how I’ve been playing for the last 17 years. Sounds like good advice but...shite man, now I feel like I’ve been doing things incorrectly or inefficiently


I put that out there. What works for you works for you, and it also works for me, too, as my knuckles are pointed at the wall about 90% of the time. OP was making contact with higher strings, so needs to lift the pads of his fingers up a bit.

That's one of the great things about guitars. Playing technique varies so much, but it still works. My little monthly guitar jam group of 5-8 guys will have 5-8 different fingering styles on the neck, but we all are playing the same notes chords and sounds.
Posted by InwardJim
Member since Dec 2018
656 posts
Posted on 11/30/19 at 1:55 pm to
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VM&P natphtha


Good to know as I've never cleaned my finished maple neck on my used tele. Will need to get some before my upcoming string change.

I just use food grade mineral oil on my rosewood one for the strat though
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27990 posts
Posted on 11/30/19 at 2:28 pm to
quote:

Also, who said point your knuckles at the ceiling instead of the wall has instantly made me sit here and over analyze how I’ve been playing for the last 17 years.


I think it is general advice that teachers give, to keep students mindful, so they keep their fingers up away from the fretboard, except for the fingertips.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34682 posts
Posted on 11/30/19 at 10:03 pm to
Which knuckles? First or second joint?
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27990 posts
Posted on 12/1/19 at 7:25 pm to
first.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34682 posts
Posted on 12/2/19 at 5:41 pm to
OK. Got it.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
10944 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 1:54 am to
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It's mild and silicon free
damn... just checked and that Martin cleaner indeed has silicon ...
them low life b-tards - they should know better - thanks TheFretShack

#whodathunkit# #toda'dump# #notcool#
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61683 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 5:43 pm to
I stayed up all night last night trying to learn how to play Wish You were here.

My fingers are sore as hell, my head is spinning and I have a new respect for people who can play guitar.


Im kinda hooked now.
Posted by Easye921
Mobile
Member since Jan 2013
2345 posts
Posted on 12/4/19 at 7:00 pm to
It's fun. I remember wanting to quit after trying over and over to play a d chord. Eventually it becomes second nature.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61683 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 5:29 am to
quote:

It's fun. I remember wanting to quit after trying over and over to play a d chord. Eventually it becomes second nature.



D was easier for me than A. I am still working on that one.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27990 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 7:59 am to
quote:

D was easier for me than A. I am still working on that one.


It was the same for me, and even now, It's not always an easy change for me to go to a 1st position Amaj chord cleanly, so I use other shapes and positions when I can.
Keep working at it though, don't be a hack like me.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
10944 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 5:01 pm to
You tried this version?



... it's three strings with your left hand ring finger. Some people can do this from the get go and for others it always a no go. This form has some really good benefits later on down the line.


Posted by Nicky Parrish
Member since Apr 2016
7098 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 6:13 pm to
quote:

it's three strings with your left hand ring finger.

I’ve been playing acoustics for for 50+ years and have never ever been able to bend that finger like that. I’ve envied those that can.
I agree about helping further down the line. Some make it looks so easy.
This post was edited on 12/5/19 at 10:42 pm
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26999 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 6:42 pm to
quote:

People who play guitar
quote:
It's fun. I remember wanting to quit after trying over and over to play a d chord. Eventually it becomes second nature.


D was easier for me than A. I am still working on that one.




When ready for the F-chord I found Ben Eller "Why you Suck at Guitar! Your Barre Chords Suck" to be a really helpful video. He's mainly a metal style player so his lessons lean to electric and speed and palm muting. Much of it is beyond me bug the barre chord video flipped a switch for me and I never looked back.

Don't be mistaken. I'm not flawlessly flying from barre to open chords, but the days of having a dead string were over.
Posted by flvelo12
Palm Harbor, Florida
Member since Jan 2012
3319 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 7:18 pm to
quote:

others it always a no go

me, my finger just can't do that, believe me I've tried.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27990 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 8:19 pm to
I will sometimes just play A7 and variations, or play a 1st position Fmajor 4 frets higher. I have some other ways that I use too, but they won't really work well if you use a flat pick. Using a thumb pick and fingers though you can make it work.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
10944 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 9:25 pm to
Yep, another easy way to accomplish nearly the same is to simply barre the lower four strings at 2nd fret and just play strings 2-5. You don't have to do that backward finger move with that flat type of barre....

or with same 4string flat barre...you can mute that fretted high-e string with a right pinky and play all 5 lower strings...
or with same move... sometimes go ahead and play all 5 lower strings because that A6 can be golden (especially in passing)


*AND they're still all finger variations on the classic open position (cowboy chord) A at the 2nd.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27990 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 9:40 pm to
Exactly. My difficulty playing a normal Amaj, really worked to my advantage, because it forced me to improvise, and then that turned into some great licks that I use all the time. Probably the very best thing that I have, musically speaking, evolved from that.

One thing that I have been just realizing lately: I have never been much of a Jerry Garcia/Dead fan, but my playing style has evolved to sound very similar to Garcia, absolutely unintentionally. Really surprising to me.
This post was edited on 12/5/19 at 10:25 pm
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
38706 posts
Posted on 12/5/19 at 9:51 pm to
You can cheat on the Barre chords, Lord knows I did and still do. But keep working on them. Being able to play barres opens up the entire fret board for you. A lot of good rock songs are nothing but barres.
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