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re: No genre of music understands it's audience better than country.
Posted on 2/14/22 at 6:25 pm to Big Scrub TX
Posted on 2/14/22 at 6:25 pm to Big Scrub TX
And country music still makes the same kinds of songs, and rock still makes the same kinds of songs, and r&b still makes the same kinds of songs, etc. There's only so many musical topics that mainstream folks actually care about.
There's:
a. I love you
b. I'm the coolest/sexiest/toughest/hardest working person ever
c. you're hot, let's have sex
d. I'm sad because my SO left me
e. Pandering about how I'm just like the audience
f. I'm angry because politics
g. mommy/daddy issues
h. I'm extra sad, like kill myself sad
i. drugs are great!
j. drugs are bad :(
k. I'm murdering/harming my ex
l. I took your man/woman
m. how dare you take my man/woman
n. we're a band performing in a show!
o: you should dance, I'm probably dancing too, and we should dance together
That's about it.
There will always be a market for songs that women want to dance and grind to. There will always be a market for songs that one would listen to feel cool, like a 10ft tall bullet-proof badarse.
There's:
a. I love you
b. I'm the coolest/sexiest/toughest/hardest working person ever
c. you're hot, let's have sex
d. I'm sad because my SO left me
e. Pandering about how I'm just like the audience
f. I'm angry because politics
g. mommy/daddy issues
h. I'm extra sad, like kill myself sad
i. drugs are great!
j. drugs are bad :(
k. I'm murdering/harming my ex
l. I took your man/woman
m. how dare you take my man/woman
n. we're a band performing in a show!
o: you should dance, I'm probably dancing too, and we should dance together
That's about it.
There will always be a market for songs that women want to dance and grind to. There will always be a market for songs that one would listen to feel cool, like a 10ft tall bullet-proof badarse.
This post was edited on 2/14/22 at 6:27 pm
Posted on 2/14/22 at 6:49 pm to LarryDavid
That is certainly cringe. Old and classic country touched a little bit on those subjects but those were mostly satire and used as filler in recording sessions. Now since the songwriting is so bad, It is all you hear.
Posted on 2/14/22 at 6:55 pm to dchog
quote:
Now since the songwriting is so bad, It is all you hear.
That's because the music industry (particularly that which you hear in advertisements, hollywood, mainstream tv, and fm radio) is not about producing quality music that consumers want to hear. It is about crafting consumers that are easy to sell goods to. Music has always been a marketing tool, but now, it is also used as a mass social engineering tool. The goal is to create demographic bubbles that each have their own music, fashion trends, and associated brands and products. Then, allow those human groups to social shame and clique behavior to keep people from radically switching niches. That way, each American consumer is easily fitted into one of a handful of different consumer boxes.
It's not about making music you might like. It's about telling you what to like in order to belong. These country songs aren't just there to pander to audiences and tell them who the performers are. They exist to tell the audience how the audience should identify THEMSELVES. They are telling the AUDIENCE what it means to identify with COUNTRY niche and how to be one. Then, it provides a list of products and fashion trends for them to consume.
Similarly, hip hop is doing the same thing to its audience. It is telling them who to be to be considered "gangsta". It is telling them what to wear, what to say, what to buy, what the trappings of success are, etc. It is putting people in a box by bludgeoning them with the same messages over and over again until they start to identify with the concepts they are being indoctrinated with through music.
Modern popular music is not entertainment so much as mass social engineering and marketing.
This post was edited on 2/14/22 at 7:00 pm
Posted on 2/14/22 at 7:35 pm to Pandy Fackler
So you are okay with some tattoos? Trashy.
Posted on 2/14/22 at 11:17 pm to kingbob
quote:Eh - this is a stretch. The specific thing I'm talking about with rap truly has barely any variation. Just because the world is finite doesn't mean it's fair to give rap that benefit of the doubt.
And country music still makes the same kinds of songs, and rock still makes the same kinds of songs, and r&b still makes the same kinds of songs, etc. There's only so many musical topics that mainstream folks actually care about.
Posted on 2/15/22 at 9:54 pm to kingbob
quote:
That's because the music industry (particularly that which you hear in advertisements, hollywood, mainstream tv, and fm radio) is not about producing quality music that consumers want to hear. It is about crafting consumers that are easy to sell goods to. Music has always been a marketing tool, but now, it is also used as a mass social engineering tool. The goal is to create demographic bubbles that each have their own music, fashion trends, and associated brands and products. Then, allow those human groups to social shame and clique behavior to keep people from radically switching niches. That way, each American consumer is easily fitted into one of a handful of different consumer boxes.
It's not about making music you might like. It's about telling you what to like in order to belong. These country songs aren't just there to pander to audiences and tell them who the performers are. They exist to tell the audience how the audience should identify THEMSELVES. They are telling the AUDIENCE what it means to identify with COUNTRY niche and how to be one. Then, it provides a list of products and fashion trends for them to consume.
Similarly, hip hop is doing the same thing to its audience. It is telling them who to be to be considered "gangsta". It is telling them what to wear, what to say, what to buy, what the trappings of success are, etc. It is putting people in a box by bludgeoning them with the same messages over and over again until they start to identify with the concepts they are being indoctrinated with through music.
Modern popular music is not entertainment so much as mass social engineering and marketing.
I don't think it is nearly so sinister as all that. It's just mostly a matter of numbers. Imitators outnumber the innovators by a large margin. Everything just clicks along in the same boring way, until something comes along to change it.
There's great new stuff being written, but the people who are in positions to push it, they are making great money already. They just ride the current wave, and try to find a hit for tomorrow, that sounds like the hit from yesterday. They don't rock the boat.
This post was edited on 2/16/22 at 6:45 am
Posted on 2/16/22 at 6:05 am to UndercoverBryologist
You clearly don’t know anything about songwriting, recording, engineering, nor production.
As far as “contemporary music” goes, it’s a shite product across the board. There’s no longer any money to be made in the music industry with new artists.
They are producing low quality products that are cheap to produce. Source a 17 year old with a pretty face, put them in a hat or skinny jeans, give ‘em 1 song written by a team of 10, and unleash them to a few Spotify playlists and hope they hit.
Why do you think Universal just paid Sting $300,000,000 for the rights to his catalog?
As far as “contemporary music” goes, it’s a shite product across the board. There’s no longer any money to be made in the music industry with new artists.
They are producing low quality products that are cheap to produce. Source a 17 year old with a pretty face, put them in a hat or skinny jeans, give ‘em 1 song written by a team of 10, and unleash them to a few Spotify playlists and hope they hit.
Why do you think Universal just paid Sting $300,000,000 for the rights to his catalog?
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