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My Merrily Mirthful Melodic Melange -- Myriad Musical Miscellania

Posted on 3/25/13 at 8:06 pm
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 8:06 pm
A home for stuff that won't fit into my innumerable genre threads



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David Ackles (February 27, 1937 – March 2, 1999) was an American singer-songwriter He recorded four albums between 1968 and 1973.

Describing Ackles's style in 2003, critic Colin McElligatt wrote, "An unlikely clash of anachronistic show business and modern-day lyricism...deeply informs his recorded output. Alternately calling to mind Hoagy Carmichael, Irving Berlin, Robbie Robertson, Tim Hardin, and Scott Walker, Ackles forged an utterly unique sound out of stray parts that comprise a whole that is as uncompromising as it is unrivaled."

Although he never gained wide commercial success, he influenced other artists, especially British singer-songwriters such as Elvis Costello, Elton John and Phil Collins, all of whom are self-declared fans of Ackles. After Ackles's death Costello said, "It's a mystery to me why his wonderful songs are not better known."


David Ackles - "Down River"

David Ackles - "Road to Cairo"

Elvis Costello and Elton John discuss David Ackles

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Posted by OldTigahFot
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 8:39 pm to
Interesting. Kind of makes me think of what Harry Chapin or Billy Joel would have sounded like if they had been born 20 years earlier. Talented guy.

Posted by Chitter Chatter
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 9:02 pm to
I saw cetera and I thought it was a Peter Cetera appreciation thread (seriously I do like Pete both eras of his career).

This is some good stuff Kafka. He's got a Gordon Lightfoot/early Neil Diamond sound vocally.

I've heard Montana Song before.
Posted by K9
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 11:23 pm to
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Gordon Lightfoot/early Neil Diamond sound vocally.



damn. thats spot on.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 3/25/13 at 11:32 pm to
It's interesting people have mentioned Harry Chapin and Neil Diamond, as those are the two Ackles' singing immediately reminded me of. Unfortunately, I'm not that crazy about either of them.

But the strength of Ackles' songwriting often makes up for his occasionally pompous voice

Elvis Costello and Elton John - "Down River"
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 3/26/13 at 10:11 am to
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A home for stuff that won't fit into my innumerable genre threads

This is probably your best thread yet.

Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 4/2/13 at 11:48 am to


Super obscure "sunshine psych" (I think I just invented that term) from 1969, the only album from a duo made up of, as you might guess, two guys named Richard. Baroque folk-pop sorta reminiscent of our beloved Hackamore Brick, but with harmony vocals (including double-tracked lead) and much more elaborate arrangements.


Richard Twice - "If I Knew You Were the One"

Richard Twice - "The Finest Poet"
Posted by TexasTiger1185
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Posted on 4/2/13 at 12:13 pm to
Is that George Clooney?
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 2:20 pm to
Mavis Staples - "Hard Times Come Again No More"

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"Hard Times Come Again No More," (sometimes, "Hard Times") is a parlor song by Stephen Foster. It was published in New York by Firth, Pond & Co. in 1854 as Foster's Melodies No. 28.




quote:

Let us pause in life's pleasures and count its many tears,
While we all sup sorrow with the poor;
There's a song that will linger forever in our ears;
Oh hard times come again no more.

Chorus:
Tis the song, the sigh of the weary,
Hard Times, hard times, come again no more
Many days you have lingered around my cabin door;
Oh hard times come again no more.

Posted by rutiger
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 2:23 pm to
I saw mavis last weekend in memphis and she was amazing.
Posted by wm72
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Posted on 5/10/13 at 9:31 pm to
Richard Twice is fantastic find. Kind of a fan of that odd anthemic "Generation '70" that open the LP if I recall the title correctly.

A lot of these obscure "pop duos" from around '69 til 73 are among my favorite records. It was genre where some unknown gems were floating around until a few years back when things like Edwards Hand begin to be reissued.

Some other along similar lines are:

Jamme



Jamme "Strawberry Jam Man"

Jamme "Poor Widow"


Steve and Stevie (pre-Tin Tin and Friends with Micheal Llyod)




Steve and Stevie "Merry Go Round"


Demsey and Dover are another good one. Belgian pop duo that released 3 singles under that name in 72-73 before becoming Lester and Denwood and not as good. Can't find them quickly glancing at youtube though.




Posted by bbqguy
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Posted on 5/11/13 at 4:23 am to
Great find on the Staples cover of the Foster song. It has the bonus of some Buddy Miller guitar work. In my opinion, Miller has put out some of the best music to come out of Nashville recently.
I always enjoy a Kafka music thread on the Music Board. It is one of the things I look for when I check in and never disappoints.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 5/11/13 at 1:55 pm to
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Jamme "Strawberry Jam Man"

Really liked this one. Need to check out more of their stuff.

A lot of these tracks could go in the Psych Out thread, but I'll just post them here for simplicity's sake.

One of my faves in the "Sunshine Psych" genre:

The Millennium - "It's You"



The Millenium was the brainchild of the late cult figure Curt Boettcher, who worked with Brian Wilson, Gary Usher, and The Association, among others. The Millenium released one album in 1968.

The Millennium - "It's You" (demo) -- This was posted to YouTube by Michael Fennelly, the song's co-writer and co-vocalist. If you like it, drop him a line.

RIP (1944-1987)

Posted by wm72
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Posted on 5/11/13 at 3:15 pm to
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Really liked this one. Need to check out more of their stuff.


The Jamme LP is one to look out. It's usually fairly cheap as well since not too many people driving prices up for these Beatles-esque groups from the 69-72 seem turned onto it.

I can't get enough of these type records.

It was one 2 British LPs produced by John Philips for Dunhill in 1969 (that I'm aware of). The other is Grapefruit's 1st LP (which, to me, is even better than Jamme).


Also, Thanks for posting that "It's You" demo. Nice with the more jangly guitar. Had never heard those demos.

Millenium released a follow up to "Begin" called the "The Blue Marble" on Together.

I think of all the great stuff Boettcher did my favorite is still the Tommy Roe "It's Now Winter's Day" LP. It's near the apex of moody sunshine pop psych for me. That Oracle 45 on Verve from 1967 is a close second.

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Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 5/11/13 at 3:42 pm to
Posted by wm72
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Posted on 5/11/13 at 4:03 pm to
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I presume you've heard of The New Colony Six?


Yeah, I've been religiously buying sunshine pop stuff since I was a teenager in the 90s when the "garage guys" at record shows used to have those LPs on the floor for a dollar each and 25 cent obscure 45s and make fun of you for buying them.

Still, of the many "rarities" that people pay $100+ after Fading Yellow, I think some of the more successful ones are still the best like the post garage New Colony Six, Tommy Roe's Boettcher period, Harper's Bizarre, Harmony Grass, Love Generation, anything Billy Carl or Billy Meschel did and, of course, ALL the Micheal Lloyd stuff.

Had never heard that Steve Gillette original or even seen the LP though.

This post was edited on 5/11/13 at 4:05 pm
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 5/11/13 at 4:09 pm to
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of course, ALL the Micheal Lloyd stuff.

Yeah, of course. ALL the Michael Lloyd stuff. Right.

(Muttering to himself, "Michael Lloyd?")

It's pretty clear you know far more about this subject than I do



ETA: Goes off to check out this Michael Lloyd person
This post was edited on 5/11/13 at 4:11 pm
Posted by wm72
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Posted on 5/11/13 at 4:43 pm to
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Michael Lloyd


I'm a Michael Lloyd fanatic.
He was a member of the West Coast Pop Art Experimental Band but also began teaming up with Mike Curb writing/producing soundtracks (Catanooga Cats, Hot Wheels and simply tons of pop-psych and bubblegum stuff for 60s b movies) and Kim Fowley on more psychedelic stuff.

He was behind a host of one off 45s but for sunshine pop and pop psych, the best 60s LPs from Lloyd aside from WCPAEB were The Smoke (on Tower/Sidewalk) and October Country then some quirky ones Bloomsbury People, American Revolution, Earth Island.

He became a head honcho at MGM in the 70s. He's behind a million huge hits good (Osmonds "Crazy Horses", teenybopper 70s bubblegum like Shaun Cassidy) and bad (Barry Manilow, Pink Lady) and what most consider the best glam song ever Jimmy Jukebox "Motorboat"

Jimmy Jukebox "Motorboat"

This post was edited on 5/11/13 at 4:45 pm
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 5/11/13 at 5:01 pm to
OK I know a little about WCPAEB. I love their cover of P.F. Sloan's Here's Where You Belong

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The Smoke (on Tower/Sidewalk) and October Country then some quirky ones Bloomsbury People, American Revolution, Earth Island.


Is The Smoke the "My Friend Jack" band?

I know October Country from their song of the same name -- they also star in a 1967 film short about the band

Recently discovered Earth Island. Never heard of BP or AR.

This guy was also in the WCPAEB:

Shaun Harris - "I'll Cry Out"

Posted by wm72
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Posted on 5/11/13 at 5:51 pm to
quote:

Is The Smoke the "My Friend Jack" band?


Nah, that's the UK Smoke (pretty great in their own right even in their rebirth as 70s glam hitmakers).

There's also 2 American bands named The Smoke, both from California. One had 2 LPS on UNI in more SF bluesy psych mode.

Michael Lloyd's The Smoke was a studio band and released one LP that came out (identically aside from label) on both Sidewalk and Tower in 1968. It actually has a different (and better) version of October Country on it.

Only the Left Banke rival it as as far as symphonic/Baroque pop psych to my ear.



I have that Shaun Harris solo LP from '73 (on WB I believe). Good songs although WB in the early 70s isn't my favorite as far as production. Too bad as well considering the amount of quality artists they had.


WCPAEB is a long, weird story but they really have as many Great songs as almost lesser known band from the 60s through all 5 of their LPs.

This post was edited on 5/11/13 at 5:53 pm
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