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TFTC
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re: Love It Or Hate It, Pop Punk Is Being Resurrected
Gotcha...

I always think of the Buzzcocks > Decendents > 924 Gillman/Lookout eras of pop punk...

Screeching Weasel's "My Brain Hurts" is the GOAT of the genre to me...

I am older and that 2000s era didnt appeal to me (except for Exploding Hearts), but I'm sure there'd be some tunes I like mixed in there... just wasn't what I was in to at the time..
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re: Love It Or Hate It, Pop Punk Is Being Resurrected
I'd say Descendents started what became of pop-punk from the early 80s to now and my GOAT is Dookie

Buzzcocks & the Undertones were more like punk that kind of incorporated new wave to me
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re: Love It Or Hate It, Pop Punk Is Being Resurrected
For me, the quintessential pop punk albums are probably:
5. A Hangover You Don’t Deserve - Bowling for Soup
4. Chuck - Sum 41 (which I believe was hugely influential in setting the to e for the 2012 dead cat bounce era)
3. Enema of the State - Blink 182
2. American Idiot - Greenday
1. Ocean Avenue - Yellowcard

I just can’t imagine someone hating that Yellowcard album.
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TFTC
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re: Love It Or Hate It, Pop Punk Is Being Resurrected
yeah - genre labels get a bit confusing and are always blurred... I mean, if we're being honest, The Ramones were pop punk...
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kingbob
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re: Love It Or Hate It, Pop Punk Is Being Resurrected
I mean, they’re clearly a lot poppier than Black Flag


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Keep Stirring
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re: Love It Or Hate It, Pop Punk Is Being Resurrected
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For me, the quintessential pop punk albums are probably:
5. A Hangover You Don’t Deserve - Bowling for Soup
4. Chuck - Sum 41 (which I believe was hugely influential in setting the to e for the 2012 dead cat bounce era)
3. Enema of the State - Blink 182
2. American Idiot - Greenday
1. Ocean Avenue - Yellowcard

I just can’t imagine someone hating that Yellowcard album.



oof.. you're 1, 2 & 3 aren't even those bands best albums.. I'm not even gonna commit on #5
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kingbob
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re: Love It Or Hate It, Pop Punk Is Being Resurrected
I’m not talking about best albums. I’m talking about albums that are most indicative of what was popular at the time, basically the early 2000’s pop punk era in a nutshell. If I was describing the most influential hair metal albums, I’d talk about Hysteria and Slippery When Wet, even though they aren’t near my favorite albums.

What would you say are your favorite Yellowcard and Green Day albums?
Ocean Avenue is probably my favorite (though Paper Walls is probably a close second).
For Green Day, I really like Dookie and Warning.
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I’m not talking about best albums. I’m talking about albums that are most indicative of what was popular at the time, basically the 200’s pop punk era in a nutshell. If I was describing the most influential hair metal albums, I’d talk about Hysteria and Slippery When Wet, even though they aren’t near my favorite albums.



Enema came out in 1999


kingbob
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re: Love It Or Hate It, Pop Punk Is Being Resurrected
I know, that doesn’t mean that it wasn’t hugely popular and often imitated in the intervening years. I almost went with Take Off Your Pants and Jacket instead, but I felt the three big hits on Enema were just too important to ignore.


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Keep Stirring
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re: Love It Or Hate It, Pop Punk Is Being Resurrected
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What would you say are your favorite Yellowcard and Green Day albums?
Ocean Avenue is probably my favorite (though Paper Walls is probably a close second).
For Green Day, I really like Dookie and Warning.


I already stated Dookie is my GOAT pop punk record.

I never got into Yellowcard much, they were kind of fun live... I liked One for the Kids more, Rough Draft is their best song


Through Being Cool, Take This To Your Grave & NFG's self titled were probably the most influential albums of that era
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kingbob
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re: Love It Or Hate It, Pop Punk Is Being Resurrected
NFG almost got that 5 spot, but I decided to give it to BFS due to the unserious and satirical nature of their music with songs like “Ohio” and “1985”.


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due to the unserious and satirical nature of their music with songs like “Ohio” and “1985”.



just off the top of my head, Atom & His Package and Reggie & the Full Effect did better satirical pop punk..



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In my opinion, pop punk was the hair metal or bro country of its time.


Get out


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Early to mid 2000's rock is slowly returning


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In my opinion, pop punk was the hair metal or bro country of its time.

These are fighting words. Hair Metal/Butt Rock owned an entire decade in the '80s. And at the same time there was all manner of pop rock/rap/hip-hop/easy listening/dance below it and actual metal music above it.

Pop punk is everything the actual punk folks are against. Punk is music is Agent Orange, Dead Kennedys and the Butthole Surfers. As much as Dookie was a refreshing turd in the '90s music punchbowl, the rest of it is commercialized crap.

Honest question: In what way is Limp Bizkit not a 2000s pop punk band? 'Cause if you're going to be punk your also going to have to try to rock. And Avril Lavigne does not rock. At all.


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re: Love It Or Hate It, Pop Punk Is Being Resurrected
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Enema came out in 1999


Yeah, I’d say pop punk was already very popular in the late 90s.


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Honest question: In what way is Limp Bizkit not a 2000s pop punk band?


Probably lots of parallels between pop punk and nu-metal, but limp bizkit clearly falls into the latter category.

The late 90s was an “interesting” time for music.


kingbob
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Probably lots of parallels between pop punk and nu-metal, but limp bizkit clearly falls into the latter category.


There was a lot of blending and crossovers, but Limp Bizkit sounded nothing like the pop punk bands outside of maybe Papa Roach and Sum 41. Linkin Park is probably the band that most skirted all the rock genres that were popular in the late 90’s/early 2000’s.

I tend to think of it like:
Post grunge: Creed, Seether, Shinedown
Pop punk: Green Day, Blink 182
Nu metal: Slipknot
Rap metal: limp bizkit, Kid Rock


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re: Love It Or Hate It, Pop Punk Is Being Resurrected
SR-71
Yellowcard
Good Charlotte
Simple Plan
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re: Love It Or Hate It, Pop Punk Is Being Resurrected
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There was a lot of blending and crossovers, but Limp Bizkit sounded nothing like the pop punk bands outside of maybe Papa Roach and Sum 41. Linkin Park is probably the band that most skirted all the rock genres that were popular in the late 90’s/early 2000’s.

I tend to think of it like:
Post grunge: Creed, Seether, Shinedown
Pop punk: Green Day, Blink 182
Nu metal: Slipknot
Rap metal: limp bizkit, Kid Rock


Just out of curiosity how would you describe bands like MCR, Fall Out Boy and Paramore? Because I always have a tough time describing them and typically use "Pop Punk/Emo Rock" for a catch all.


kingbob
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re: Love It Or Hate It, Pop Punk Is Being Resurrected
Pop punk. Fallout Boy and Paramore both evolved over time, but they all started as pop punk


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