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re: Let's have a civil discussion about AI music
Posted on 10/19/26 at 9:55 pm to TheTideMustRoll
Posted on 10/19/26 at 9:55 pm to TheTideMustRoll
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Why do you upvote all of your own posts?
To negate your downvote.
Posted on 10/20/26 at 4:07 am to TFTC
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Im not interested in music that has AI contributions, personally... If I know in advance, I won't listen to one second of it... That is my personal opinion on it...
It should all be labeled animated. AS in by law... like this
except for it being labeled as being animated or artificial. And stamped across every scene in a movie where it's being passed on, same with the written word, and for damn sure on the fraud that you are attempting to perpetrate upon us. And it's disingenuous to suggest you've been civil in this discourse... when every time someone speaks you jump up and down in vehement protest.
And maybe even an anthropomorphic lie. Because I'm still not convinced of his manhood, woman hood, or of having a human soul, beating heart, or air filled lungs. . .. ie: even a human being.
This post was edited on 10/20/26 at 4:58 am
Posted on 10/20/26 at 6:19 am to Dawglovertoo
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Your opinions mean sh*t to me.
NIce. Then we're even.
Posted on 10/20/26 at 6:22 am to Dawglovertoo
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To negate your downvote.
I haven't downvoted a single one of your posts. And what would it really matter if I had? Why would you feel the need to "negate" it, whatever that means?
Posted on 10/20/26 at 7:09 am to TheTideMustRoll
Isn't it obvious he has the emotional make-up of a child?
Posted on 10/20/26 at 9:38 am to awestruck
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and for damn sure on the fraud that you are attempting to perpetrate upon us. And it's disingenuous to suggest you've been civil in this discourse... when every time someone speaks you jump up and down in vehement protest.
It is not a fraud for someone to use AI music to help them create a finished song.
Unlike the AI haters here most "normal" people don't care if a song is generated by AI as long as it sounds good and is enjoyable to listen to.
That's just a fact of life you AI haters will have to accept because AI music is here to stay.
As far as my responses to AI haters who post their reasons for hating AI music, this thread is a "discussion" about AI music which means both sides get to respond to the posts of the other side. My responses have been extremely civil not a "vehement protest".
You just are unable to respond to the points I made in favor of AI music with any valid counterpoints.
Occasionally, when someone posts something insulting to me like "we don't give a shite" I will respond in kind with a post saying "your opinion means sh*t to me".
What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
Posted on 10/20/26 at 9:52 am to awestruck
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And maybe even an anthropomorphic lie. Because I'm still not convinced of his manhood, woman hood, or of having a human soul, beating heart, or air filled lungs. . .. ie: even a human being.
The same could be said about you.
That's just a cheap shot at me because I have a different opinion about AI music than you.
To quote the lyrics in one of my brother's songs, "What's right for me could be so wrong for you".
Posted on 10/20/26 at 9:54 am to Mizz-SEC
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Isn't it obvious he has the emotional make-up of a child?
Yes. And any intelligence he has is truly artificial.
Posted on 10/20/26 at 9:59 am to Mizz-SEC
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Isn't it obvious he has the emotional make-up of a child?
This is what I am talking about. You get to insult me but I have the emotional make-up of a child if I defend my opinion with valid counterpoints which you are unable to respond to in a civil manner.
The fact is AI music is here to stay even though you don't approve of it.
Posted on 10/20/26 at 10:03 am to DeltaTigerDelta
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Isn't it obvious he has the emotional make-up of a child?
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Yes. And any intelligence he has is truly artificial.
Again, this is exactly what I am talking about. You get to insult me but I am stupid and have the emotional make-up of a child if I defend my opinion with valid counterpoints which you are unable to respond to in a civil manner.
The fact is AI music is here to stay even though you don't approve of it.
Posted on 10/20/26 at 10:11 am to TheTideMustRoll
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I haven't downvoted a single one of your posts. And what would it really matter if I had? Why would you feel the need to "negate" it, whatever that means?
LOL! Like I would believe anything you say.
It gives me pleasure and satisfaction to know I negate the downvote of one of you who feels the psychological need to downvote every post I make even though they are so mulish they refuse to even listen to any of my songs.
Posted on 10/20/26 at 10:16 am to Mizz-SEC
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Your opinions mean sh*t to me.
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NIce. Then we're even.
Duh.
That's the point.
You are not going to get me to change my mind about AI music by insulting me.
Posted on 10/20/26 at 10:57 am to Dawglovertoo
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let's have a civil discussion about AI music
no.
Posted on 10/20/26 at 11:01 am to RockNHorse
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let's have a civil discussion about AI music
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no
Then don't post anything in this thread because your biased opinion is of no value whatsoever.
Here's the opinion of someone who is not biased who listened to one of my songs.
She said, "Wow wow wow wow what a song
Academy Award winning
This is better than most any other current music so so great!!!!"
This post was edited on 10/20/26 at 11:09 am
Posted on 10/20/26 at 11:32 am to Dawglovertoo
Learn to take a joke.
Posted on 10/20/26 at 11:59 am to RockNHorse
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Learn to take a joke.
I do take a joke when it's an obvious joke.
Yours wasn't.
Posted on 10/20/26 at 12:33 pm to Dawglovertoo
My bad.
I get it, upon noticing some of the more vitriolic comments. jeez.
Speaking for myself, some of us are still recovering from the initial onslaught of karaoke that knocked small band live music $$ into the ditch.
I don't hate AI music, it was inevitable.
I spent a couple hrs practicing a really cool (to me) Texas blues rock slide guitar instrumental I heard recently, trying hard to get all the riffs sounding right, b4 I realized it had to AI because you simply can't duplicate exactly whats happening on the cut.
But it's a cool tune and I enjoy playing it.
Doesn't even have a name, it just 1 of many that play with bunches of other AI "Texas Roadhouse Blues" sets on YouTube.
*sigh*
I get it, upon noticing some of the more vitriolic comments. jeez.
Speaking for myself, some of us are still recovering from the initial onslaught of karaoke that knocked small band live music $$ into the ditch.
I don't hate AI music, it was inevitable.
I spent a couple hrs practicing a really cool (to me) Texas blues rock slide guitar instrumental I heard recently, trying hard to get all the riffs sounding right, b4 I realized it had to AI because you simply can't duplicate exactly whats happening on the cut.
But it's a cool tune and I enjoy playing it.
Doesn't even have a name, it just 1 of many that play with bunches of other AI "Texas Roadhouse Blues" sets on YouTube.
*sigh*
This post was edited on 10/20/26 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 10/20/26 at 12:57 pm to RockNHorse
You should try using Songer.
I just got this email from them.
"Great country songs live in the details.
Tell Songer the instruments, the vocals, and the setting.
The formula
Example
Slow country ballad, pedal steel and fingerpicked acoustic, warm male vocals, empty gas station at midnight, quiet regret
Try these
01 Honky-tonk Friday
Upbeat honky-tonk, barroom piano, twangy Telecaster, rowdy singalong chorus
02 Porch light
Laid-back acoustic country, soft harmonica, gentle female vocals, warm summer evening
03 Back roads
Driving country rock, loud drums, gritty vocals, windows-down freedom
04 Mountain stomp
Fast bluegrass, banjo rolls, fiddle runs, foot-stomping energy
05 High noon
Cinematic western, lonely whistle, tremolo guitar, standoff tension
06 First dance
Tender country waltz, soft fiddle, male-female duet, wedding-day glow
Small tweak, big change
Swap one detail and you get a whole new song. “Upbeat” becomes “slow,” acoustic becomes electric, a bar becomes a church."
I just got this email from them.
"Great country songs live in the details.
Tell Songer the instruments, the vocals, and the setting.
The formula
Example
Slow country ballad, pedal steel and fingerpicked acoustic, warm male vocals, empty gas station at midnight, quiet regret
Try these
01 Honky-tonk Friday
Upbeat honky-tonk, barroom piano, twangy Telecaster, rowdy singalong chorus
02 Porch light
Laid-back acoustic country, soft harmonica, gentle female vocals, warm summer evening
03 Back roads
Driving country rock, loud drums, gritty vocals, windows-down freedom
04 Mountain stomp
Fast bluegrass, banjo rolls, fiddle runs, foot-stomping energy
05 High noon
Cinematic western, lonely whistle, tremolo guitar, standoff tension
06 First dance
Tender country waltz, soft fiddle, male-female duet, wedding-day glow
Small tweak, big change
Swap one detail and you get a whole new song. “Upbeat” becomes “slow,” acoustic becomes electric, a bar becomes a church."
Posted on 10/20/26 at 1:20 pm to Dawglovertoo
A friend of mine used that one to create a song for his daughter's wedding.
I use Audacity, Moises, and my fngers and voice : ]
I use Audacity, Moises, and my fngers and voice : ]
Posted on 10/20/26 at 1:30 pm to RockNHorse
On Songer you can also create stems where you can break up the song into 12 different tracks. You can remove or add instruments, singers and include your own instrumentals and singing. You can change the music for about two weeks so that it becomes your own version of your song. I haven't tried doing that but a friend of mine is doing that and his songs are sounding great. You can even put in a crowd of people singing along with the music.
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