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re: If Andrew Wood hadn't died

Posted on 9/20/12 at 2:44 pm to
Posted by Cdawg
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Posted on 9/20/12 at 2:44 pm to
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Seattle wasn't about sadness.

Yeah, it wasn't sadness but I think it gets that perception from the gloomy outlook or attitude the Baby boomers said we(generation X) had coming about the time of Gulf War, the Recession, and mix that with bands with heroin abuse. Which I guess could or is gallows humor from our pov.

But yeah, youtube has plenty of videos of the goofiness all the bands had. Alice in Chains on MTV at a waterpark in New Jersey is great stuff.





This post was edited on 9/20/12 at 2:45 pm
Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 9/20/12 at 2:58 pm to
I mean, Gen X was openly antagonistic to the Boomers and their heroes. But I think people kind of missed the joke. It's not that we were more authentic or whatever, it's that no one is authentic and it's all BS. Sub Pop is short for Subterranean Pop (or "underground pop"). I don't think I need to explain that joke. The other major Seattle label was Kill All Rock Stars. No one took this seriously at all. Nirvana was just as surprised as anyone to be on the cover of Rolling Stone.

A lot of these bands were goofs. Mudhoney was proudly amateurish, and they were exemplars of professionalism compared to their side project, the Throw Ups.

Mother Love Bone might've been the only band in the Sub Pop circle trying to "make it" in any traditional sense (Alice in Chains was never a Aub Pop band and Soundgarden's first gig was with SST -- pretty much the home of West Coast punk at the time, though sadly going through it's death throes).

I actually find the vapid party music of 80s hard rock to be far more depressing, though unintentionally. It was like forced happiness, but describing a fantasy world that we could never experience. The Seattle bands stood up and said, "Man, this sucks, but that's ok. Because we have beer, weed, and loud guitars". Heroin came later.
Posted by brgfather129
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Posted on 9/20/12 at 9:08 pm to
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His big hit song was about deodorant


Um, no.
Posted by shuke33
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Posted on 9/20/12 at 11:19 pm to
Off topic but

I think it's funny the media labeled Sleater Kinney an all lesbian band when they really weren't.
Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 9/21/12 at 8:20 am to
Sleater Kinney is, by far, the best band to come out of Washington state in the 1990s, and maybe the best band of the entire decade. I love them to death. They are one of the go-to bands on my iPod.

And Corin Tucker is cute as hell. Also, not a lesbian. Though she has a new record out with her new band, which is really good, and you should get it.

To tie it back in, one of S-K's few radio hits was "You're No Rock n Roll Fun", which made fun of self-serious bands. It's okay to smile, people.
Posted by shuke33
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Posted on 9/21/12 at 9:30 am to
Are you talking about Wild Flag? I saw them this summer in Brooklyn with Mission Of Burma opening for them. F'ing amazing show.
Posted by BrockLanders
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Posted on 9/21/12 at 9:44 am to
quote:

Sub Pop is short for Subterranean Pop (or "underground pop"). I don't think I need to explain that joke.


It wasn't a joke at the time the label was formed in 1986. - five years before anything happened with Nirvana. Mudhoney's "Touch Me I'm Sick", for example, was not exactly a single that was going to appeal to a ton of listeners. There was no wink-wink going on with the label name, I assure you.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 9/21/12 at 9:53 am to
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And Corin Tucker is cute as hell.







no thanks
Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 9/21/12 at 10:34 am to
No, Corin is in the Corin Tucker Band. Wild Flag, while also awesome, is Carrie Brownstein's band.

Sub Pop was actually a zine before it was a label, but that's a bit of the joke. Something can't be both popular and underground. But it was popular to them. It was popular to me... because man, I still worship at the altar of Mudhoney.

Posted by BrockLanders
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Posted on 9/21/12 at 11:06 am to
quote:

Sleater Kinney is, by far, the best band to come out of Washington state in the 1990s, and maybe the best band of the entire decade. I love them to death.



So, did you ever go see them play live?
Posted by bobbyray21
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Posted on 9/24/12 at 7:47 pm to
quote:

His big hit song was about deodorant


quote:

Um, no.


Eh, kinda

quote:

Cobain came up with the song's title when his friend Kathleen Hanna, at the time the lead singer of the riot grrrl punk band Bikini Kill, spray painted "Kurt Smells Like Teen Spirit" on his wall. Since they had been discussing anarchism, punk rock, and similar topics, Cobain interpreted the slogan as having a revolutionary meaning. What Hanna actually meant, however, was that Cobain smelled like the deodorant Teen Spirit, which his then-girlfriend Tobi Vail wore. Cobain later claimed that he was unaware that it was a brand of deodorant until months after the single was released
Posted by TFTC
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Posted on 9/24/12 at 8:20 pm to
Meanwhile, The Posies were putting out better records than most of their Seattle brethren in the early 90s... although they kinda "grunged" up '93's Frosting on the Beater.... not sure if that was them or geffen, but I suspect the latter...
Posted by brgfather129
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Posted on 9/25/12 at 2:00 am to
quote:

Eh, kinda


Seriously? Perhaps you should check the definition of "unaware".
Posted by bobbyray21
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Posted on 9/25/12 at 8:04 am to
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Seriously? Perhaps you should check the definition of "unaware".


Perhaps you should check the definition of "douchebag".

Why do you think I put 'kinda", smart guy? He didn't realize until later that the lyrics were about deodorant. But the lyrics were about fricking deodorant. Eat a dick.
Posted by TFTC
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Posted on 9/25/12 at 8:37 am to
I'm not really sure how the lyrics can be about deodorant (or kinda about deodorant) if he didn't even know that it was deodorant... It sounds like he heard a phrase he liked and used that as the name of the song...
Posted by bobbyray21
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Posted on 9/25/12 at 9:23 am to
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. It sounds like he heard a phrase he liked and used that as the name of the song


That's exactly what happened.

What was that phrase about?
Posted by bobbyray21
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Posted on 9/25/12 at 9:25 am to
How about this:

The lyrics were inadvertently about deodorant.

We happy?
Posted by TFTC
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Posted on 9/25/12 at 9:50 am to
I could concede that the song title (not lyrics) was based on a misunderstood phrase about deodorant, but thats as far as I'm willing to go...
This post was edited on 9/25/12 at 9:51 am
Posted by bobbyray21
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 9/25/12 at 10:21 am to
quote:

I could concede that the song title (not lyrics) was based on a misunderstood phrase about deodorant, but thats as far as I'm willing to go...



I was referring the whole time to the song title. If I wrote lyrics I didn't mean to.

ETA: I referred to "lyrics" several times, which probably confused the matter. Oopsy.

This post was edited on 9/25/12 at 10:23 am
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 9/25/12 at 3:48 pm to
What do the lyrics of that song mean?
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