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re: How long did it take you to "get" finger picking? Guitar, smartasses!!

Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:57 pm to
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 8:57 pm to
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I can do the whole thing some and at times it even sounds good. However getting the alternating bass is not too hard.


If you can get the alternating bass.. Boom... Chick...reaally solid and running on automatic...to a certain extent, it seems like you can do almost anything with the treble strings and kinda make "sense".

I think this is the start of developing one's own voice with an instrument.

Just my opinion.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
14592 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:38 pm to
I think you're right.


It's a matter of how ornate you want. Mark Knopfler, Thom Bresh, Chet Atkins, and Tommy Emmanuel .. all have good YouTube discussions about thumb dominance.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27778 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:39 pm to
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Money Talk board misses you... how about an update?




Haven't bought anymore guitars.

Used debt snowball to chop down small cards. Then our AC crapped out finally which was a setback. Still hacking though.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
21446 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:48 pm to
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I know John Prine only used the thumb and index finger which is different than most


RL Burnside used his thumb and index finger. Sounds simple enough, but damn could he create some great rhythms with it! LINK
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
31562 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 9:56 pm to
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Get you some finger picks. They are awkward for a while but you eventually get used to them and they procude more sound than just your fingers. There are a whole lot of guitarists, both acoustic and electric players, who finger pick using picks.


I just always let my nails stay slightly longer on my right hand, maybe 1/32nd, and use the nails like picks.
If I am going to play with some other people and need to be louder, I'll get some fake fingernails and glue them on and clip them even with my real nails, then pile on glue and an clear polish. sand them down good, and nobody even notices, but it really amplifies the notes.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 4/9/20 at 10:32 pm to
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I'll get some fake fingernails and glue them on and clip them even with my real nails, then pile on glue and an clear polish. sand them down good, and nobody even notices, but it really amplifies the notes.


John Renbourn used ping pong balls!

*Seriously...he used ping pong balls*.
This post was edited on 4/9/20 at 10:35 pm
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
31562 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 6:34 am to
That's what Chet Atkins used too. I never tried that, I have meant to, but I think it would be thinner than what I like, and then I'll have to take it off.
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
19013 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 6:51 am to
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I tend to anchor my pinky on the guitar when I'm finger-picking. I also kinda bend my wrist and "claw" my hand a little if that makes sense, as opposed to keeping it kinda straight and in line when strumming. I admit it's not technically correct but it works for me.

I use Ring on high E, middle on B, index on G, thumb for rest. Nothing unique there.



Same for the most part, self taught. Over time, ring and middle fingers started interchanging E/B strings based on chord. Ring finger learned to rest on B and feel E. I find starting in a familiar place helpful. For me, every time I play, it’s tune, play some variation of C, then capo 2 for Reckless Kelly’s “Wicked Twisted Road” - a.) because I like it and b.) because I can speed up/down or add variations and know pretty quick whether or not my fingers really feel like playing.

As I’ve dabbled in percussive guitar, my wrist is straightening out so that the heel of my hand can strike guitar - I have some bad habits that make this tricky. Also have a finger style cajon positioned for thumb but far enough away that I force my hand to leave home-base, which helped a lot with quickening reorientation.

Takes some work, but playing without a pick broke me of the plateau I had reached. Once you’re comfortable, there are some really fun things you can do. I’m super into adding finger cajon, as mentioned, along with acoustic foot drum and foot tambourine right now, impressing even myself with some of what I’m playing.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
14592 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 6:53 am to
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If I am going to play with some other people and need to be louder, I'll get some fake fingernails and glue them on and clip them even with my real nails, then pile on glue and an clear polish. sand them down good, and nobody even notices, but it really amplifies the notes.
That's what James Taylor uses.

His reasoning being his natural nails can't hold up to the amount he plays.... so it appears to be offical I'm not playing enough
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
31562 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 7:31 am to
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His reasoning being his natural nails can't hold up to the amount he plays.... so it appears to be offical I'm not playing enough


I can't imagine how much that guy probably plays. I can't do it.
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
18508 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 8:28 am to
Play bass too. Picks are illegal.

Seriously, I started out playing with a pick and played with one for years. Then I just decided I wanted to play finger style because I just liked the way it sounded. It took a while to get it down. Now it is just second nature. Do it without even thinking about it. Like anything, no matter how you do it, no wrong way IMHO, it will just take a lot of practice.

Now, even though I played with a pick for years, I just can't do it right. It is clumsy and sounds awful.
This post was edited on 4/10/20 at 8:30 am
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 10:23 am to
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Play bass too. Picks are illegal.

Seriously, I started out playing with a pick and played with one for years. Then I just decided I wanted to play finger style because I just liked the way it sounded. It took a while to get it down. Now it is just second nature. Do it without even thinking about it. Like anything, no matter how you do it, no wrong way IMHO, it will just take a lot of practice.

Now, even though I played with a pick for years, I just can't do it right. It is clumsy and sounds awful.


I play with very thick Dunlop picks and some handmade picks made from ebony. I also have a technique where I play with a pick with the thumb and forefinger, and still finger pick octaves and 7ths with the ring. It took a while to master that. I usually play with three fingers too, because I saw Les Claypool do it.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 10:26 am to
I don't remember where I got this thumb pick, but it is fairly large and fits over the knuckle of my thumb fairly snuggly. The motion I make with the thumb is kinda like going to a record store and flipping through records with the thumb, if that makes sense. That way the bass note rhythm can be altered when it needs to be, but is still consistent.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 11:57 am to
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I don't remember where I got this thumb pick, but it is fairly large and fits over the knuckle of my thumb fairly snuggly.


Over the knuckle?
It seems like that would necessitate a whole shift in hand position?

Speaking of picks..has anyone tried the Bluechip picks...I just can't see spending $35. on a flat pick.


*$40. for a thumb pick??*
This post was edited on 4/10/20 at 12:05 pm
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27778 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 1:13 pm to
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That's what James Taylor uses.


Saw a YouTube video of his nail prep. He broke out what looked like a teen girls caboodle kit. Lol
Posted by CocoLoco
Member since Jan 2012
29108 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 3:06 pm to
i finger pick way more than using a pick. just need to practice a lot and get your dexterity going.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 4/10/20 at 10:35 pm to
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Over the knuckle?


More like the angle of the knuckle, if that makes sense.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
14592 posts
Posted on 4/11/20 at 2:13 pm to
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RL Burnside used his thumb and index finger. Sounds simple enough, but damn could he create some great rhythms with it! LINK
. . . and then there's Django Reinhardt with barely two (functional) fingers on his fretting hand.

And Yes -
to the RL Burnside
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45120 posts
Posted on 4/11/20 at 4:27 pm to
Learn Travis picking
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 4/11/20 at 6:42 pm to
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Once you’re comfortable, there are some really fun things you can do.


Artificial harmonics can be a hoot if not overdone.
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