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Posted on 7/12/20 at 11:47 am to
Posted by TigerRanter
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 7/12/20 at 11:47 am to
Check out a Newark St Guild Bluesbird. Can probably find one under $600.
Posted by 45acp
Near The Big Chicken
Member since Jul 2007
737 posts
Posted on 7/12/20 at 3:50 pm to
Great that you realize this. In all seriousness look for an sg and upgrade the electronics. If that’s not enough upgrade to Callaham (one of the best upgrades) bridge. Then figure out if the pickups are good to go.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19055 posts
Posted on 7/12/20 at 4:38 pm to
So here's where I'm at.

Originally started off looking at the LTD EC 256. I loved the satin black, and it runs around $450 new at Sweetwater. I was thinking along the lines of adding a Tonepros bridge and tail piece and either upgrading the pickups or the tuners. Also came across a pretty stunning Lemon Drop version on Reverb for around the same price. Upon further deliberation, starting cheap and adding hardware upgrades just puts me in the next LTD price tier anyway.



I did some more looking and found this fantastic looking EC 1000 with all the hardware and pickups I wanted for $1000, but I just can't get past the abalone binding. To me it's overkill.


Finally, that brings me to the EC 1000T. It's about 100 bucks more than the EC 1000, has a beautiful flamed maple top with a satin finish. Also comes with Fishman Fluence Open Core Classic Humbuckers and not the Seymour Duncans I want. I'd be open on making this tradeoff, but there are multiple comments on the ESP website complaining about these pickups dying within days or weeks of the guitar purchase. So if I went this direction I might as well plan on spending a couple hundred bucks more for some Duncans. The toggle switch apparently craps out as well.


Just noticed the headstocks. The EC 1000's maple tops have a matching headstock, but the EC 1000 T's don't. That's actually kind of a bummer.
Posted by TheFretShack
Member since Oct 2015
1240 posts
Posted on 7/12/20 at 5:11 pm to
Meh on matching headstocks, most Gibson and Fender headstocks don't match the color of their respective bodies because most headstocks are black or natural.

Advice, since budget is a concern: Sounds to me like you're going into the upgrade mentality simply for the sake of upgrading whatever you get.

You don't even know what your guitar you're getting, now can you know what it may or may not need?

I tell my clients all the time, whether you get a $350 guitar or a $1350 guitar or a $3350 guitar ... wait until you get the guitar, get it set up properly by a pro for your playing style(s), and then turn laps with it for a few weeks before you start shopping upgrades.

Let the guitar, not us, not your friends, and not the rest of the internet, tell your hands, ears and torso what IT needs to be its best. I'll bet you it won't "need" half the stuff you "want" for it.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19055 posts
Posted on 7/12/20 at 6:08 pm to
quote:

wait until you get the guitar, get it set up properly by a pro for your playing style(s), and then turn laps with it for a few weeks before you start shopping upgrades.



That’s good advice. Whether it’s guitars or other things non musical I have a bad habit of wanting to add and subtract things. Thankfully though I was also blessed with patience to usually talk myself out of it. I must admit that I’m a bit frustrated as well. No matter where I look, inventories have taken a beating because of the whole pandemic. Nothing I’ve been interested in is even in stock right now. I’ve got less than a month to find the right guitar, have it delivered and then set up in time.
Posted by alpinetiger
Salt Lake City
Member since Apr 2017
5864 posts
Posted on 7/12/20 at 6:55 pm to
Takamine. Narrow neck and playability. Everyday guitar. I have a Taylor I'm going to sell. Actually, interested in a 1995 910?
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19055 posts
Posted on 7/12/20 at 11:31 pm to
I think I might have found exactly what I was looking for. I came across it while scanning through reverb. Even better is that the seller lives about a 30 minute drive from me. It's a very nice 2003 Epiphone Les Paul Custom in Cherry Sunburst finish with a Seymour Duncan Custom '59 in the neck position and a JB in the bridge position. Priced right in my original base price of around $500 too. Going to check it out tomorrow in person.
Posted by TigerRanter
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
6706 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 12:14 am to
Good pickup combo
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38284 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 7:43 am to
Custom SG Ivory White with triple humbuckers, baw.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89542 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 8:11 am to
quote:

Custom SG Ivory White with triple humbuckers, baw.




NVM - I misread it.
This post was edited on 7/13/20 at 8:12 am
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38284 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 8:17 am to


Sick...!
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89542 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 9:17 am to
quote:

Sick...!


When I read it initially, I thought you were a Steve Clark fan -



He was almost a 100% LP Custom player - had one in most configurations.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38284 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 9:37 am to
Nah. But truth be told; I wasn’t spending the price tag on the Gibson. I bought the Epiphone!
Posted by MudCatMatt
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2018
238 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 10:31 am to
Gretsch G5220. I bought one on Reverb.com recently and love it. I normally play Les Paul's and this thing is pretty damn close for half the price.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 7/13/20 at 11:37 am to
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I just can't get past the abalone binding. To me it's overkill.


I'm not even crazy about the abalone fret markers on that particular model.

I suppose I have to ask now about anything in your price range you like by Ibanez?

I'm thinking you might go with a kit and get TFS to put it all together for you.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89542 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 11:39 am to
quote:

Let the guitar, not us, not your friends, and not the rest of the internet, tell your hands, ears and torso what IT needs to be its best. I'll bet you it won't "need" half the stuff you "want" for it.


Amen to this - I've never upgraded a guitar despite intention to do it every time. Maintenance and set up? Yes. Never had to upgrade.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67096 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 12:06 pm to
I’ve upgraded several, so they’re now literally one of a kind.

As a result, no one has a tone like mine.
This post was edited on 7/13/20 at 12:08 pm
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89542 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 12:15 pm to
quote:

As a result, no one has a tone like mine.


Yeah, but you probably "play" guitars and not just collect them, right?
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67096 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 12:33 pm to
That I do. Before Corona, I was gigging 2 or 3 shows on guitar a month as well as using them for weekly rehearsals and occasional recording sessions.

I also have a passion for picking up really cheap guitars and turning them into something really nice. My main one cost $500 with a hard case back in 2009. It was a cheap LP knockoff from Korea, but it had great resonance, finish, and an exceptional neck pickup. I put in locking tuners, fixed the bend in the neck, new nut, new bridge pickup, new electronics, and I have yet to find its equal.

The other was a 70’s Arbor (another LP knockoff) that had been sitting unplayed for probably 20 years when I picked it up for around $160 from an estate sale. Put in a new neck pickup, new electronics, and new tuners and have a great vintage LP that has almost Stratocaster level twang. I use an eq pedal to make it sound like a tele, and a pitchfork with an expressor to make it sound like a slide guitar, because those kinds of shenanigans are fun for me. I thought about putting a bigsby tremolo system on it, but the pedal works for now.

My next guitar will either be a 12 string acoustic/electric or a telecaster with a b-bender or a floyd rose.
This post was edited on 7/13/20 at 1:22 pm
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
27969 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 12:44 pm to
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I've never upgraded a guitar despite intention to do it every time. Maintenance and set up? Yes. Never had to upgrade.

To me, upgrading doesn't make much sense on a higher end guitar, or really even a midrange one. If you have the money, you should just buy exactly what you want in the first place. It can damn sure pay off on a lower end guitar though, if it's just going to be a player.
This wasn't always the case, but thanxs to CNC machines and great quality control, a cheap guitar can be turned into a great player.
This post was edited on 7/13/20 at 8:52 pm
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