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Guitar Players....Anyone else dealing with a Shoulder problem?

Posted on 4/28/18 at 8:12 am
Posted by tidalmouse
Whatsamotta U.
Member since Jan 2009
30706 posts
Posted on 4/28/18 at 8:12 am
I've had an MRI.I have a Bone Spur on my Rt Shoulder that's impinging on my Bicep Tendon.

I can only play 2 or 3 songs an have to stop.

I don't want surgery.So I guess I'll grin and bare/bear it.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
26964 posts
Posted on 4/28/18 at 8:20 am to
Right shoulder and Your a right handed player?

I get tons of issues that are mainly bad posture and bad newb habits.

A bone spur that impinges a tendon is probably not going away. It becomes a quality of life vs. feelings/fears of surgery discussion with yourself.
Posted by Devious
Elitist
Member since Dec 2010
29145 posts
Posted on 4/28/18 at 9:04 am to
That sucks. No different when sitting?
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
36311 posts
Posted on 4/28/18 at 9:54 am to
Oh man that sucks. If you have shoulder issues you could try a bigger, wider strap. That might help.
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 4/28/18 at 10:58 am to
I managed to push to hard for too long and damaged the nerve in my right arm and lost feeling in the arm for about 2 yrs. No playing for sure then.

Let that heal, changed how I was positioning the guitar, Classical Style, and worked hard on relaxed shoulder position and no tension. I have been back playing for several years now, no problems.

However I eventually had Rotator Cuff surgery due to other issues. Wish I had decided to have the surgery sooner, solved old injuries from Football I did not even know were there.

Shoulder better than it had been for years before guitar induced nerve injury.
This post was edited on 4/28/18 at 11:01 am
Posted by TheFretShack
Member since Oct 2015
1237 posts
Posted on 4/28/18 at 4:03 pm to
I briefly owned a '79 LP Standard some 10'ish years ago that was righteous sounding but weighed nearly 14 pounds according to the local post office scale. To date is is the heaviest solidbody electric I've ever been around. It was so heavy, other guys who owned Norlin-era heavyweight (10 lbs and up) Gibsons would say "now THAT'S a heavy Les Paul." Gigged it one night for four hour-long sets and I spent the next day alternating between a heating pad and an ice pack.

I say that as a segue ... you might look for a lightweight guitar if you are playing a heavyweight. If that's the case, stock Gibson SGs and mahogany-bodied Ibanez Sabers tend to be in the lighter spectrum of weight. The right cuts of high quality swamp ash (strats, teles) can be super light.

And if you really wanna get insanely feathery and aren't opposed to guitars that employ composites alongside wood, all Parker Fly Deluxes weigh between 4 and 5 pounds. Think broomstick with strings.
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
63196 posts
Posted on 4/28/18 at 11:56 pm to
Not shoulder, but my back sure hurts after an evening of practice or a gig. Combination of a heavy bass guitar and middle age. :(
Posted by tidalmouse
Whatsamotta U.
Member since Jan 2009
30706 posts
Posted on 4/29/18 at 5:03 am to
Thanks for the responses.

I'm usually sitting when playing.

I would be in a world of hurt standing with the weight of the guitar.

I'm Rt. handed,so it's my picking shoulder.

At least I'm not the only one hurting.
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 4/29/18 at 7:00 am to
quote:

At least I'm not the only one hurting.


Continuing to push through the pain is a bad idea I think.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
10926 posts
Posted on 4/29/18 at 7:10 am to
Yep, have had lots of various shoulder problems.

The bigger question might be better understanding the underlying condition causing the bone spur? They happen for a reason. One temp work around might be to change positions, maybe even standing with a strap to really change (raise/lower) height, or such thing; however it sounds like you know this already. I once got by doing this with an approximation of the AC joint.

For me I had to stop things several times for a while but it was always soft tissue damage or vertebrae conditions and never a skeletal/hard shoulder problem. So I guess only you can determine just what you'll forgo until having it corrected. And will putting it off mean a more evasive fix later on?
Posted by tidalmouse
Whatsamotta U.
Member since Jan 2009
30706 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 6:24 am to
quote:

Continuing to push through the pain is a bad idea I think


I agree.I went to the Surgeon that I would have do it,around 1-2 years ago.

He sent me to Physical Therapy.It was nice but didn't fix anything.

I had my Left Knee scoped on 4/20 so I'm not wanting to have it done right away.

Thank y'all for the responses.

quote:

And will putting it off mean a more evasive fix later on?


Didn't think about that.
This post was edited on 4/30/18 at 6:27 am
Posted by midlothianlsu
Midlothian, Texas
Member since Oct 2009
1412 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 7:55 am to
Combination of a heavy bass guitar and middle age.

switched from a Rickenbacker bass to a Hofner after rotator cuff surgery combined with old age (64) and that has made a big difference. Hofner weighs less than 5 lbs.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
10926 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 2:04 pm to
yeah, think that should have been invasive
Posted by wartiger2004
Proud LGB Supporter!
Member since Aug 2011
17815 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 2:50 pm to
Impingement surgery sucks arse. I have had it done three times, twice on my right and once on my left side. After they shave the bone it hurts like a mofo until it heals over. Also had my right bicep reattached twas not pleasant. Starting to have pains in my right side again too 6 years later. I know I'm a Debby Downer but i play bass and guitar and can't do it for to long at a time.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
7489 posts
Posted on 4/30/18 at 8:43 pm to
quote:

I've had an MRI.I have a Bone Spur on my Rt Shoulder that's impinging on my Bicep Tendon. I can only play 2 or 3 songs an have to stop. I don't want surgery.So I guess I'll grin and bare/bear it.



i’m not a guitar player (just own a few), but i do suffer from the same thing due to years of abuse playing baseball.

i’ve been dealing with it for 6 or 7 years now.
bone spurs causing impingement and slight tears to Rotator Cuff and labrum.
it doesn’t go away. at least it hasn’t yet.

my Dr. recommended not having surgery until it’s absolutely necessary.
said the rehab/recovery is brutal and takes a long time.
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 5/2/18 at 7:10 am to
quote:

my Dr. recommended not having surgery until it’s absolutely necessary.
said the rehab/recovery is brutal and takes a long time.


I don't know which shoulder surgery you are speaking of. I had the rotator cuff surgery. It is 6 weeks of your arm of the repaired shoulder, fixed to your midsection with Velcro, to immobilize movement.

If it is your dominate arm, taking a shite and wiping can be a challenge. And rising from a lying position, with your arm in that position is difficult, not to mention sleep. I used a power chair for most of the 6 weeks to sleep and get up and down.

Rehab was 6 weeks or so, 3 or 4 times a week.

The results for me was Very Positive, would do it again, though it is not as much as a success for some as others and it was more painful than any other surgery I have had.

Still I would do it again, I had gotten to a point that I had lost a great deal of strength and motion, dressing was a challenge.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
7489 posts
Posted on 5/5/18 at 6:09 pm to
quote:

I don't know which shoulder surgery you are speaking of. I had the rotator cuff surgery. It is 6 weeks of your arm of the repaired shoulder, fixed to your midsection with Velcro, to immobilize movement.


my throwing arm.

to do it right, would need open surgery to remove the spur. while in there, would repair the partial tears to labrum and rotator cuff.
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 5/5/18 at 6:27 pm to
quote:

to do it right, would need open surgery


They did Laparoscopy on me, and did a great deal of repair.
Posted by harmonics
Mars Hotel
Member since Jan 2010
18615 posts
Posted on 5/5/18 at 7:27 pm to
Guess you'll have to be a steel guitar player now.
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