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re: Guitar players, what is your most frustrating chord change?

Posted on 6/3/16 at 3:45 pm to
Posted by MountainTiger
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Posted on 6/3/16 at 3:45 pm to
quote:

Why you bullying me?



Sorry man. OK put your index finger on the 1st fret of the B string. No the second one from the bottom. Yeah that one. Now put your middle finger on the 2nd fret of the D string...
Posted by EyeTwentyNole
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 4:38 am to
Bb definitely and for some reason after playing for 15 yrs I still have trouble grabbing D. Im forced to play it the right way when im doing hammer ons and pull offs but when strumming I cheat by barring the top 3 strings and using my ring finger for the 3rd fret
Posted by link
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 9:11 am to
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Surprised nobody has made a bar chord cheat?

Meaning a device or wrap for the index finger. Makes it easier to fret all strings but not mute and supple enough to still bend finger.

I'll work on that. I'll be rich.
you could invent a 5th appendage on the hand, one that is opposable to the other 4. it could be similar to the others but shorter and stubbier. we'll call it a "thumb". this "thumb" could somehow be wrapped around the top of the neck to cover the root note of the barre chord. first, we'll take this technique and popularize it, similar to what this nice colored fella is doing here:



then we'll make youtube videos about it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9RqP2fT64k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uh-6uhE6Yxo

we'll be rich.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 9:29 am to
But how will I get everyone to switch to upside lefty guitar?

Also acoustic vs electric.


While I am at it I may start a basketball camp too. Call it MJ's System. Rule #1-5 is to just be better and work harder than everyone else. Trouble with the jumper? fricking take it to the hole son? Got a tall guy on the other team who can guard? Keep shooting jumper until they go in by your all consuming will, and then start shooting them in his face.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 9:59 am to
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similar to what this nice colored fella is doing here:


One of Hendrix's secrets - his hands were fricking huge.
Posted by MountainTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 10:46 am to
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One of Hendrix's secrets - his hands were fricking huge.

You know what they say...

You can see in that pic above that his thumb is covering up the D, A & E strings. That's a hell of an advantage over somebody with normal-sized hands.
Posted by link
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 10:57 am to
quote:

Also acoustic vs electric.
that shouldn't matter. you can thumb-over your barre chords on an acoustic too. the shape on fingers 1-4 is similar to a C chord and could help switching to and from F like you were saying in the OP.

of course i'm talking about the barre chords on the low E string, not the A string. i don't know any other way around barring those.

Posted by LSU alum wannabe
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 3:09 pm to
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that his thumb is covering up the D, A & E strings. That's a hell of an advantage over somebody with normal-sized hands.


No it's not. Right? He played upside down as well??? So the top was G,B,E?

There are some ACTUAL guitar players on here so it is possible I am talking right out of my arse.
Posted by randybobandy
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Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 3:32 pm to
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not the A string. i don't know any other way around barring those.


5 frets up the neck- E shaped barre chord
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 4:20 pm to
quote:

One of Hendrix's secrets - his hands were fricking huge.



Jamie Humphries of Lick Library has the biggest hands I've ever seen.

LINK
Posted by MountainTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 6/7/16 at 11:27 pm to
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No it's not. Right? He played upside down as well??? So the top was G,B,E?

He used a right handed guitar but it was strung left handed. Anyway the point was that his thumb can cover 3 strings if he wants it to. Mine barely reaches over to get the E string.
This post was edited on 6/7/16 at 11:29 pm
Posted by Mars duMorgue
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Posted on 6/8/16 at 5:22 am to
Barre to open. open to barre.
Posted by Pepe Lepew
Looney tuned .....
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Posted on 6/8/16 at 5:47 am to
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No it's not. Right? He played upside down as well??? So the top was G,B,E?


If you wish to see this, check out the great Albert King, he played it upside down....
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 6/8/16 at 6:43 am to
I can completely cover all six strings with my thumb and fingers at the same time,but I have never gotten in the habit of using my thumb on the strings.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/8/16 at 7:57 am to
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If you wish to see this, check out the great Albert King, he played it upside down....




I thought Hendrix did too, but with the qualifier that I was a newb with potential for talking from my arse being high.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 6/8/16 at 8:08 am to
quote:

He used a right handed guitar but it was strung left handed.


This is correct. He used he same chord shapes and scales as mere mortals do. As I said one of his secrets was his monstrous mitts.

quote:

the point was that his thumb can cover 3 strings if he wants it to.


Plus his fret range was probably pretty wide, even up near the nut.

And, for tone chasers, there is another consequence of stringing a right handed Strat for a left hander - the pickup magnets are, generally, set up closer for the smaller strings (GBE) than the larger strings (EAD) - with Hendrix's set up, that's reversed - so his heavier strings were closer to the magnets than his lighter strings.

The more you know, right?
Posted by tidalmouse
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/8/16 at 8:41 am to
Fm# barre chord.

It's near impossible for me get it clean and on time.
Posted by MountainTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 6/8/16 at 9:33 am to
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The more you know, right?

Yeah. I never thought about that but you're right. Of course he could have had his tech adjust the pickup height but it's entirely possible that he didn't for this very reason.

I think he also liked the tuners on the bottom of the neck rather than the top.
This post was edited on 6/8/16 at 9:35 am
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 6/8/16 at 9:48 am to
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Of course he could have had his tech adjust the pickup height but it's entirely possible that he didn't for this very reason.


He was his own tech for a lot of that stuff, and he reportedly did freaky shite with the pickup height, as well. But I'm certain that was driven by that initial use of the RH guitar strung upside down. Hendrix was a known "tone chaser."

(ETA: And unless he changed to LH pickups, the internal configuration would have been reversed, too, with the RH pickups - and recall that era of Strats the pickups were poorly potted and used larger diameter magnets than later models).
This post was edited on 6/8/16 at 9:53 am
Posted by MountainTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 6/8/16 at 10:00 am to
The bridge pickup would definitely be different-sounding because it would be slanted the "wrong" way.

And yeah if he was using staggered pickups (and I think they were all staggered back then) then the individual pole heights would be different as well.
This post was edited on 6/8/16 at 10:02 am
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