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re: Guitar players: F major barre chord

Posted on 11/18/14 at 11:23 am to
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 11/18/14 at 11:23 am to
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Yea, I use the thumb on some chords...Dadd9 is the one I use it the most on.....basically a D shape with the thumb on the f# note on the low E.

Isn't that just a D major triad? D-F#-A

I thought you leave the high E open for an add9. That gives you the 9th interval between the open D and the open E an octave up. Could be wrong though...
This post was edited on 11/18/14 at 6:15 pm
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/18/14 at 6:05 pm to
It was tough when I was first starting out, but it's much easier after practice.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 11/18/14 at 8:55 pm to
This is why I became a bassist 20 years ago
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 8:22 am to
I struggle with it too. Can attribute it to poor wrist position. My entire style is very sloppy and percussive because of how I tend to dull out bare chords. I honestly could use a lesson so I can at least try and drill proper form in my head.

I'm the exact same way in golf. Developed a style that is passable, but lacks fundamentals.

I have found that when I play often, sitting upright, I can start to work those bars better with consistency; in other words, practice, but practice with a purpose.
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14976 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 10:44 am to
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I have found that when I play often, sitting upright, I can start to work those bars better with consistency; in other words, practice, but practice with a purpose.

Very good point. The old saw about practice making perfect is not true. Practice makes permanent so if you practice incorrectly, you'll play incorrectly. Only perfect practice makes perfect. (Applies to golf also.)

Another thought I had is guitar position. Barre chords in general are hard to play if you wear your guitar down below your waist. You should have it up by your torso and the neck should be tilted upward. Look at Sonny Landreth. It looks nerdy but it's really the proper position.
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:08 pm to
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Another thought I had is guitar position. Barre chords in general are hard to play if you wear your guitar down below your waist. You should have it up by your torso and the neck should be tilted upward. Look at Sonny Landreth. It looks nerdy but it's really the proper position.


Yes indeed. Proper position helps everything, from fretting cleanly to reaching faraway notes to avoiding injuries like carpal tunnel.

For playing while seated, nothing beats a good guitar support. Classical players put the guitar on the left leg and elevate with a foot stool, which most people aren't going to want to do, though it does get the guitar in the ideal position. Good alternatives are things like the Dynarette cushion or my favorite, the Neckup strap, the latter working great on the right leg.
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15387 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 4:43 pm to
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Proper position helps everything, from fretting cleanly to reaching faraway notes to avoiding injuries like carpal tunnel.

Nobody ever got laid because some chick was impressed with how cleanly he fretted an F chord.

OP, for years I've been switching back and forth from a regular E barre to a closed E shape that only hits the ADGB strings. Ring finger on A, pinky on D, middle finger on G and index on B. Mute the Es. The technical name for this technique is "laziness" and I recommend it in all walks of life, really.
Posted by Fontainebleau Dr.
Mid-View New Orleans
Member since Dec 2012
2401 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 6:37 pm to
For years when I was younger, I wore my guitar low, because I thought it looked cool to wear it low like Jimmy Page. But then I realized he was able to get away with it more because he has freakishly long arms and a short torso. Later, I realized if I wore the guitar higher on my body (with the neck pickup above my belt line), I was able to play so much cleaner because, all of a sudden, I wasn't killing my fretting wrist. Roy Buchanan never looked cool with his chemistry teacher clothes and his tele strapped way high, but his guitar was positioned for maximum effectiveness.
This post was edited on 11/20/14 at 6:38 pm
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