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Guitar Players: Do your barre chords suck?

Posted on 9/21/16 at 11:48 am
Posted by MountainTiger
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Posted on 9/21/16 at 11:48 am
Here are some helpful tips: LINK
Posted by Shepherd
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/21/16 at 2:16 pm to
Decent video. It did not give me the strength, dexterity, chord location knowledge I so lack though..
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/21/16 at 3:03 pm to
Hell no!!!

The world is just not ready for me yet.

I will unleash my acoustic guitar styling a when ready. Not a moment sooner.
Posted by The Dudes Rug
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 9/21/16 at 3:04 pm to
I've been playing acoustics for year and I still have trouble with a B chord. Its weird because other barre chords (Bm, F, Fm) are super easy.
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 9/21/16 at 3:19 pm to
Bb is tougher for me but it doesn't come up that often. I don't really have that much trouble with barres but if I'm playing a song that's all barre chords, my hand gets fatigued and sometimes cramps up. This video made the point that you don't have to squeeze the neck like you're trying to snap it in two. So I'll try to position my hand better, tuck my elbow in and not grip so hard.
Posted by Loubacca
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 9/21/16 at 3:29 pm to
quote:

Bb is tougher for me but it doesn't come up that often. I don't really have that much trouble with barres but if I'm playing a song that's all barre chords, my hand gets fatigued and sometimes cramps up. This video made the point that you don't have to squeeze the neck like you're trying to snap it in two. So I'll try to position my hand better, tuck my elbow in and not grip so hard.


Man, I struggle with the same issue. I had seen this video before and tried this technique with better results.
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 9/21/16 at 9:23 pm to
The usual B, B-flat etc are A-shaped barre chords, while the usual F, G, etc are E-shaped. Learn the CAGED system.

If you want a barre chord challenge, try Cavatina from "The Deer Hunter" arranged for solo guitar.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6-- the Brazos River Valley
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 9/21/16 at 9:46 pm to
Try playing the Flamingos' version of "I Only Have Eyes For You". You go through the whole gamut of barre chords in the first two measures of music.
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14974 posts
Posted on 9/22/16 at 8:01 am to
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The usual B, B-flat etc are A-shaped barre chords, while the usual F, G, etc are E-shaped.

Yes I know. Not really sure what your point is.

quote:

Learn the CAGED system.

I watched a video on CAGED and I didn't really get much out of it. I'm probably missing something.
This post was edited on 9/22/16 at 8:06 am
Posted by Loubacca
sittin on the dock of the bay
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Posted on 9/22/16 at 8:38 am to
For me knowing and understanding is not the same as being able to play it well. Of course it's just a matter of practice, but finding the time is hard with two little ones.
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14974 posts
Posted on 9/22/16 at 8:46 am to
Very true. If it's possible, dedicate a small amount of time as often as you can, maybe after they go to bed, to practicing. Even if it's only 15 minutes, it will still help.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27872 posts
Posted on 9/22/16 at 8:48 am to
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Guitar Players: Do your barre chords suck?
For me knowing and understanding is not the same as being able to play it well. Of course it's just a matter of practice, but finding the time is hard with two little ones.




Hell its the opposite for me. I can (and did) watch this and other videos. Can hold all the shapes fairly well, but now what? I understand shite about music and theory and time signatures. How far up the neck should a shape move? Half step? Whole? Some sound like dogshit, some I find by accident and realize that it must be a chord.

My next major hurdle will be stretches and any my pinkie ever having to fret over the top of a chord. A-minor with a GBass for instance.

My mind goes over all of this when I really should be playing Smoke on the Water and Every Rose type songs.
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 9/22/16 at 9:30 am to
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Yes I know. Not really sure what your point is.


You replied to a message talking about B with a comment about B-flat, as if they're essentially different, and they're not. Naming chords like that is also ambiguous.

quote:

I watched a video on CAGED and I didn't really get much out of it. I'm probably missing something.


My point comes from CAGED.
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14974 posts
Posted on 9/22/16 at 9:32 am to
quote:

You replied to a message talking about B with a comment about B-flat, as if they're essentially different, and they're not.

No I said Bb was more difficult for me. That's because it's a bigger stretch.
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 9/22/16 at 9:59 am to
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No I said Bb was more difficult for me. That's because it's a bigger stretch.



My bad. The difference is only like 1/8" on a 25.5" scale neck, and it's a simple shape, so that just didn't register. Sorry.
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14974 posts
Posted on 9/22/16 at 10:04 am to
It's all good. For those A-shape barres, I flatten out either my ring or pinkie finger across the D-G-B strings. My ring finger is better at it because it's stronger but Bb is more of a reach with that finger. On the other hand (no pun intended) my pinkie isn't as strong. It isn't as if I can't play it at all; it's just more difficult for me than B.
This post was edited on 9/22/16 at 10:11 am
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 9/22/16 at 10:17 am to
I use my pinkie. I can't do it with the ring finger at all. The distal joint will not hyperextend on my ring fingers, i.e. it won't flatten out sufficiently. I guess because I use my pinkie, I don't perceive any real difference between the A-shaped chords only a fret apart.
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14974 posts
Posted on 9/22/16 at 11:05 am to
Makes sense, Spock. I should probably work on strengthening my little finger.

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Hell its the opposite for me. I can (and did) watch this and other videos. Can hold all the shapes fairly well, but now what? I understand shite about music and theory and time signatures. How far up the neck should a shape move? Half step? Whole? Some sound like dogshit, some I find by accident and realize that it must be a chord.


wannabe, if you want to start a thread about music theory, I'll try to answer whatever questions you have. Although I'm not (yet) a CAGED disciple, I feel like I understand music theory to a reasonable extent. I know how keys and scales work and how chords are constructed.
Posted by Breesus
Unplug
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 9/22/16 at 2:48 pm to
quote:

Of course it's just a matter of practice, but finding the time is hard with two little ones.



How little? Buy them guitars, teach them, practice while you teach.

That's my plan with my son
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15387 posts
Posted on 9/22/16 at 4:36 pm to
quote:

How little? Buy them guitars, teach them, practice while you teach.

That's my plan with my son

Getting them interested in music from an early age sounds like a great idea until a one year old barfs directly into your Strat's tremolo assembly. Try cleaning that out.
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