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Ginger Baker dead...

Posted on 10/6/19 at 6:56 am
Posted by Pepe Lepew
Looney tuned .....
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 10/6/19 at 6:56 am
Posted by L1C4
The Ville
Member since Aug 2017
16594 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 7:32 am to
RIP you cranky old sob.

Which was the bigger a-hole, ginger or buddy rich?
This post was edited on 10/6/19 at 7:20 pm
Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
6419 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 9:21 am to
One of the great rock drummers, classically trained.

I'm partial to Blind Faith - they produced only 1 album, but it is an all time great: Ginger Baker, Eric Clapton, Steve Winwood.
May he Rest in Peace.

Sea of Joy:
LINK
This post was edited on 10/6/19 at 9:27 am
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
19285 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 10:13 am to
Time to creamate his ornery arse.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
31940 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 10:47 am to
Been seeing clips on the news channel.. not many drummers get that kind of mention. Says a lot.
Posted by 225bred
COYS
Member since Jun 2011
21085 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 10:56 am to
Damn, RIP to a great.

Only Clapton now is the surviving member of Cream.
Posted by OSchoenauer
Somewhere south of Bunkie
Member since May 2008
463 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 4:00 pm to
I've never come over here before, but I saw this and couldn’t resist.

The GOAT.

There will be arguments in favor of John Bonham, of course. Bonham had tremendous power, and hand speed.

But the complexity of Baker’s work remains unmatched.

Any hypothetical poll of fans would probably put Bonham at the top of the list.

But I remember seeing a poll, decades ago (yeah, I'm old), of drummers -- Baker’s fellow craftsmen, and expert judges of his work -- and he was at the top by a large margin.

An icon, and a pioneer of the independent drum solo. “Toad” took him 2-1/2 years to write, and is still considered the finest of all time (Bonham’s “Moby Dick”, while spectacular, is derivative).

Baker’s fights with Cream bassist Jack Bruce are the stuff of legend.

Bruce was a gold-plated, forty-weight, narcissistic a-hole, and insisted on raising the volume on his amp until it was loud enough to eclipse the sound of Baker’s drums.

Baker was a hotheaded heroin/cocaine addict who wouldn’t take shyt from anybody. And he had the kind of face that you would expect to see (in a really bad horror movie) peering through your window at 3 AM in the middle of a thunderstorm.

In later years, with Bruce in Los Angeles and Baker in South Africa, each would comment that the other was “still too close”.


There’s not a whole lot of video from those pre-digital days, but there are some links which may be of interest:

(1969)

“Toad” drum solo (1966):

“Toad” drum solo (1989):
(watch Baker’s left hand from 3:24 to 3:32

“Toad” drum solo (Reunion -- 2005)

“Toad” (Wikipedia)

The Devil Looks After His Own


I suspect that, even on this board, there are not a whole lot of people old enough to remember Ginger Baker.

RIP, Sir: the world is a little less interesting for your departure.






Posted by SFVtiger
Member since Oct 2003
4495 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 4:03 pm to
I remember rip
Posted by Dandy Lion
Member since Feb 2010
51416 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 5:32 pm to
quote:

 (Bonham’s “Moby Dick”, while spectacular, is derivative). 

Bonham also pulled from the heavy handed American (Frosty) who drummed for Lee Michaels. Frosty was also the first to bare hand.
This post was edited on 10/6/19 at 5:37 pm
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
23228 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 7:37 pm to

Great drum solo. Thanks for posting.
Posted by Socrates Johnson
Madisonville
Member since Apr 2012
2429 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 10:16 pm to
I feel like the world felt slightly safer today. RIP Mr. Baker
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
52634 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 3:53 am to
My first drum lesson I took from Buddy Rich. He was friends with friends of my parents. I was interested in drumming and my mom arranged for me to get my first lesson. I was completely in awe, but he was great! He spent at least a half day with me getting me started on fundamentals and telling me to practice, practice, practice until I was exhausted and pouring sweat. I would, too, through the years. It was really motivating. I can still hear his voice in my head telling me that "music IS life and if I wanted to live a full life, I needed to let the music flow out from within me."

I was 9 years old and hooked. By the 9th grade I was teaching percussion myself, and was the jazz band drummer for four years in high school and lead percussionist for the symphonic band, playing and teaching every instrument. Even played in a small group for a while after college but didn't want to do the whole travel on the road thing. I still play, and have a studio upstairs with a full set of Rodgers and Zildians, along with amps, keyboard, guitars, bass, mics, mixer board, pedal boards and launcher boards. My kids play everything, including flute and trumpet. I can sit in, but mostly, their friends come over to jam. We made sure our kids could make music and sing and encourage them to write their own. My daughter sings and plays guitar and keyboard at church, even getting into a ohurch music program in Norman where she attends OU and my son is first chair trumpet in band and in the jazz band is an improvisational player.playing at times on bass, drums or trumpet.

It all goes back to Buddy Rich inspiring me to make music a part of my life.
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
23228 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 5:32 am to

Great story. If you haven't seen THIS check it out.
Posted by LSUlefty
Youngsville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
28595 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 6:06 am to
I will always say that Cream should've been the greatest band of all time. Their egos got in the way.
Posted by farad
Member since Dec 2013
12736 posts
Posted on 10/7/19 at 6:18 pm to
RIP Ginger...
I'd say God Bless him but he'd have none of it...
Posted by 88Wildcat
Topeka, Ks
Member since Jul 2017
17037 posts
Posted on 10/9/19 at 8:14 am to
Posted by Tiger in Texas
Houston, Texas
Member since Sep 2004
22262 posts
Posted on 10/14/19 at 6:53 pm to
I suggest everyone watch the documentary, "Beware of Mr. Baker", it's on YouTube.
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