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LSU alum wannabe
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FretShack signal!!!! Question for Fret and any others on here who aren't as good.
Basically from the Pro (Fret) to the novices like me and all varying degrees in between. 2 years or more ago I posted about building my own acoustic. She is here and ready for final touches.

My question is if any of you go places besides LMI or StewMac for items.

Items in question are....

Fret inlays. Dot inlays.
Side fret position markers.


Just other luthier supply.Nothing against LMI or Stew just other options?

Final is advice on headstock emblem. I have a plan but need advice on execution. I have an old decal that I want to buy then affix to the headstock and cover where it cant be removed. The headstock is complete other than decal.


auggie
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re: FretShack signal!!!! Question for Fret and any others on here who aren't as good.
Have you played the guitar yet? How does it sound and play?
Personally, I don't really care for fretboard inlay anymore, I just like the side dots. You can do those with a small drill and hot glue gun or something.

As far as your headstock decal goes, if it is the kind that is printed on clear plastic with a paper backing, you probably want to use a few drops of warm soapy water on the headstock to make it easy to move the decal around on the headstock and get the perfect position, then roll the water and air bubbles from under the sticker and dry the moisture as quick as possible, let it dry well and apply some clear over it.


LSU alum wannabe
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Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
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re: FretShack signal!!!! Question for Fret and any others on here who aren't as good.
I copied a Martin 000-28 and got a taylor. Bright with new strings and jangly. With fret buzz. Needs leveling. And need to work on lower fret “fall away”.


TheFretShack
Member since Oct 2015
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re: FretShack signal!!!! Question for Fret and any others on here who aren't as good.
Add Philadelphia Luthier Supply to your source list. I get my side dots from SM.

Have four decals handy so you have a backup, a backup for it and a backup for it. If you only have one decal, it will tear, crinkle and/or bubble, that's how the world works.

My favorite sources for custom decals are Rothko and Frost in the UK and Uncle Nerky in Canada.

Hit me up if you need fret leveling or a supply list to prep for a DIY. In the case of the latter, a DIY'er should plan to spend $2K in tooling for pro results.
This post was edited on 6/12 at 11:12 am


LSU alum wannabe
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Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
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re: FretShack signal!!!! Question for Fret and any others on here who aren't as good.
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Hit me up if you need fret leveling or a supply list to prep for a DIY. In the case of the latter, a DIY'er should plan to spend $2K in tooling for pro results.



If you were closer it would already be on the way to you. Gonna DIY this fret level. Did a prelim pre string level with a sanding bar and fret rocker. Now with strings I still have some high spots. I have marked in sharpie.

Have these items.

A. Flat sanding bar.
B. Fret file.
C. Metal guards for the board.
D. Mini files (kobalt set of 5).
E. Little sanding blocks. (Maybe useless).
F. Micro mesh.

Wish me luck “coach”. Lol


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TheFretShack
Member since Oct 2015
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re: FretShack signal!!!! Question for Fret and any others on here who aren't as good.
Here's your "also get if you don't already have" list, with the items placed in order of use:

Notched straight edge: The MVP of ALL my guitar tools. You need the neck DEAD STRAIGHT, ABSOLUTELY FLAT AND THE GUITAR STABILIZED BEFORE YOU LEVEL FRETS and you cannot do it without a notched straight edge. PERIOD.

Masking tape to mask fingerboard, Sharpie to ink fret tops.

A. Flat sanding bar.

B. Fret file. I use a diamond offset to recrown. Be sure to re-ink fret tops before you recrown

C. Metal guards for the board. You can have mine if you want them, I never use them for anything. If you tape the board and you still need guards, you need better files AND better techniques LOL

D. Mini files (kobalt set of 5). What are these for?

E. Little sanding blocks. (Maybe useless). I use 400, 600, 800 and 1000 Norton Black Ice wet/dry automotive grade sandpaper before I polish out. I use it dry.

F. Micro mesh.

Wish me luck “coach”. Lol

GOOD LUCK!
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LSU alum wannabe
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Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
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re: FretShack signal!!!! Question for Fret and any others on here who aren't as good.
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Notched straight edge: The MVP of ALL my guitar tools. You need the neck DEAD STRAIGHT, ABSOLUTELY FLAT AND THE GUITAR STABILIZED BEFORE YOU LEVEL FRETS and you cannot do it without a notched straight edge. PERIOD.


Thanks for the advice. Been looking to get one. Just keep putting it off. Off to Amazon I go. Need one though. Straight edges are something I horde. Estate sales. Find a cool old one and buy it. Lol. Just no notched edge yet.


Masking tape is no issue. Hell I’ll use both to say I did. Another thing I have plenty of. My final pieces of dot inlay arrive today. So I will just drop those in and wait for my straight edge.

Kobalt files are just my answer to mini files. A couple are useless but two are tiny triangle files that do a nice job in my novice hands.


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Crow Pie
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re: FretShack signal!!!! Question for Fret and any others on here who aren't as good.
I just put a fresh set of strings on my Taylor acoustic and noticed a very small groove on many of the B string frets? Is this some to be concerned about?

Also and how hard and/or how much does it cost to re-fret a guitar?

Does it reduce the value of a guitar to not have original frets?


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wareaglepete
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Northwest of Pegasus
Member since Dec 2012
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re: FretShack signal!!!! Question for Fret and any others on here who aren't as good.
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My favorite sources for custom decals are Rothko and Frost in the UK


I’ll second this. They are very good.


TheFretShack
Member since Oct 2015
692 posts

re: FretShack signal!!!! Question for Fret and any others on here who aren't as good.
I just put a fresh set of strings on my Taylor acoustic and noticed a very small groove on many of the B string frets? Is this some to be concerned about?

Shallow dimples in frets aren't a problem until you hear their effect on the fretted notes. Remedies range from fret leveling and recrown to a partial refret. I've only once done a full refret on an acoustic, a partial refret is typically plenty sufficient.

Also and how hard and/or how much does it cost to re-fret a guitar?

I was trained specifically for frets at one of America's top luthiery schools. You won't get a refret in my shop for under $350. You can find cheaper elsewhere. You can always find cheaper. You can also get exactly what you pay for.

Does it reduce the value of a guitar to not have original frets?

Yes, if it's a collector grade guitar. Most guitars are not collector or investment grade, however, no matter how much one wants to believe their high-dollar "limited edition" guitar is collectable.

In the case of player grade guitars, if the guitar is unplayable because the fret bed is too worn, that reduces the value too. So it's a case by case basis.

Shameless self-promotion moment ... here's a recent refret on a 1974 Telecaster in which I was able to slightly increase the size of the original frets to modern tastes, yet preserve the original clearcoat as part of the refret. This guitar sold a few days ago on eBay (owner bought it a month ago at the Dallas vintage show to fix it up and turn it). It sold at current vintage market prices, i.e., my refret didn't diminish value.








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