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Electric guitar effects 101 - what's a necessity iyo?

Posted on 9/30/19 at 1:35 pm
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45196 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 1:35 pm
I've been playing acoustic for 30+ years, not great but I can play some advanced finger-style stuff etc. I'm thinking about buying an electric (just a cheap squire tele to start with). I've been reading about effects/pedals a bit and wanted your opinion on what/if I should get something right away. (I realize effects are very much personal preference). I'm not into metal or hard rock, will be playing basic blues, southern rock, country'ish type stuff.

Thinking I'm interested in the Ibanez TS9 overdrive - any of you have one or have an opinion? Thanks
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
71188 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 1:50 pm to
Absolutely essential:
Wah
Chorus
Delay

Recommended
Phaser
Reverb
Distortion
Overdrive
Fuzz
EQ
Looper

Other fun possibilities:
Pitch shift
Univibe
Flanger
Synthesizer
Compressor
Noise gate
This post was edited on 9/30/19 at 3:48 pm
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14971 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 1:55 pm to
I'd throw distortion into the essential pile unless you already get a good overdriven sound from your amp. I really like Fulltone distortion pedals.

Also in the recommended pile, I'd add compression and noise gate.

Or you can get a modelling amp that has all that stuff built-in. Not quite as good as analog pedals (imo) but a lot more convenient, cheaper and good enough for practice.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
96242 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 2:23 pm to
quote:

I'm thinking about buying an electric (just a cheap squire tele to start with).


Don't do it. A Yamaha Pacifica, for not a helluva lot more money is a "real" guitar.

quote:

Thinking I'm interested in the Ibanez TS9 overdrive


I think we need some more information. Are you going to do a traditional Guitar -> Effects Chain -> Amp setup? Or are you going to play through a PC or other setup where you're listening on headphones?

And many of us will try to simultaneously save you from/damn you forever to engaging in "gear acquirement syndrome" - you might want to explore the multi-effects world (which can, depending on budget, go so far as simulate the entire chain from guitar to PA, with everything from pre/post processing, pedals, amps, cabinets and mics) so you can sample what various things can do/can sound like before you commit to a specific set of pedals (if you even need them beyond what the modelers do for you).

Now, having said that, if you have a very specific tone in mind and will largely stick to that, then research how that guitarist got that tone and look at options from there.

It is a wide open world for the electric guitarist as far as what options are available - nearly infinite at this point.
Posted by TheFretShack
Member since Oct 2015
1383 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 2:50 pm to
I'd say buy affordable multi-effect unit that's a revision/generation or so out of date so you can take advantage of the cheaper cost. I just did a Google search on a Boss ME-70. It can be had via multiple sources for under $200 because the ME-80 is the current version.

The ME-70 has dozens of effects in it, from the most used/common/popular to bizarre case-specific effects. I gigged and recorded with a ME-70 in my last band, relying on all my tones, even distortions/ODs, from it, and I never got booed or corksniffer'ed off the stage over it. Not as good as my Boogie half-stack, but good enough and a helluva lot easier to set up and break down.

Use a multi unit like this to decide what you really want/need/like, then pursue those individual effects tailored to your tastes.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45196 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 3:25 pm to
quote:

Or you can get a modelling amp that has all that stuff built-in. Not quite as good as analog pedals (imo) but a lot more convenient, cheaper and good enough for practice.
Thanks. This was my next question, amp with built in effects.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45196 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 3:26 pm to
quote:

I think we need some more information. Are you going to do a traditional Guitar -> Effects Chain -> Amp setup? Or are you going to play through a PC or other setup where you're listening on headphones?
I was planning on getting an amp.

quote:

Now, having said that, if you have a very specific tone in mind and will largely stick to that, then research how that guitarist got that tone and look at options from there.
Ive started doing this a bit.... thanks
This post was edited on 9/30/19 at 3:28 pm
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45196 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 3:27 pm to
quote:

Use a multi unit like this to decide what you really want/need/like, then pursue those individual effects tailored to your tastes.
Good thinking...
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31547 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 3:33 pm to
Who really needs a wah pedal? That’s not essential in the least.

Essential:
Reverb
Delay
Fuzz/overdrive
Compressor/EQ
This post was edited on 9/30/19 at 3:35 pm
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
71188 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 3:40 pm to
Everyone needs a wah. Literally all guitar solos are better with a wah. All funk music is better with wah. All blues, pop punk, even metal is better with wah. There is no more essential effect than wah other than maybe overdrive.

What kind of music are you playing that never uses a wah?
This post was edited on 9/30/19 at 3:44 pm
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
18126 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 3:47 pm to
I don't think a Chorus pedal is essential at all. For blues/rock/country, I'd go more with:

Reverb
Overdrive
Delay
Wah (for those few rock/blues songs that use it)

Don't buy any pedals until you get your amp. Find an amp that is a good pedal platform. I'd recommend a Fender tube amp with spring reverb.

If your amp doesn't have reverb, there are several nice reverb/delay combo pedals.
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31547 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 3:59 pm to
quote:

Everyone needs a wah.




quote:

What kind of music are you playing that never uses a wah?


in rock 'n roll, you don't need a gosh darn wah medal.
Posted by monsterballads
Gulf of America
Member since Jun 2013
31547 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 3:59 pm to
quote:

I don't think a Chorus pedal is essential at all.


they aren't
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
71188 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 4:02 pm to
I agree that chorus is not essential for blues or country, but it’s extremely useful and fun for literally everything else. It also mixes well with other pedals.

I definitely agree with everyone that said to get a cheaper boss effects processor to find out what kinds of effects you like.

When you’re ready to step up to investing in real pedals, here’s a couple I recommend.

For reverb, one cannot go wrong with the holy grail or the hall of fame, but my favorite (for the price) is the rougaroux banshee.

Phaser is Phase 90 all the way.

Behringer makes some cheap delay pedals that are excellent for the price.

I don’t like recommending distortion or overdrive pedals because everyone has different tastes and goals. I recommend trying every pedal you can until you find what you like. Some common pedals I enjoy particularly include:
Pro-co rat distortion
MXR prime distortion
Boss Blues Driver
Electro harmonix big muff
Boss metal core

These might be some good ones to try out and play with as you figure out what tones you really like and want.

Fender Mustang II has a lot of onboard effects that can be fun for finding your desired direction. It’s a great practice amp with enough volume for playing gigs in small rooms until you can afford to upgrade to something nicer with tubes.

As for amps, I like fender’s tube amps and orange’s solid state amps because both have solid clean settings with excellent onboard reverb as well as serviceable overdrive.
This post was edited on 9/30/19 at 4:17 pm
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
71188 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 4:08 pm to
quote:

rock 'n roll, you don't need a gosh darn wah medal.


That is bullshite. Wah is essential in rock n roll from jimi hendrix to Van Halen to Pearl Jam to rage against the machine, etc.

Wah is an essential part of all guitar shredding except sometimes country music. Even there, a little subtle wah is used constantly in solos.

This post was edited on 9/30/19 at 4:11 pm
Posted by InwardJim
Member since Dec 2018
656 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 4:19 pm to
Reverb and overdrive.

Though you can get a combo amp with these and more built in like a fender champion. Granted you can only use one effect at a time.

Also a Looper pedal is useful if you mostly play by yourself.
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12856 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 4:39 pm to
I'm like you, I've played acoustic almost exclusively. But sometimes I do like to play my electric to record or just to play along with music on my cpu.

It sounds like you should start with an amp with effects built in.

I have the line 6 spider III



Line 6 Spider 3 demo

You'll see in the video that it's very versatile and will probably do more than what you need it to.
This post was edited on 9/30/19 at 4:50 pm
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 4:45 pm to
The older i get the less I seem to want between my guitar and the amp. I have had dozens of pedals over the years, but now all I seem to need is my TS9 tube screamer i bought in the early 80s, and a cheap analog delay, my amps all have reverb so that is covered. i play country, Blues, classic rock, and some jazzy instrumental stuff.
Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
8192 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 5:11 pm to
quote:

Or you can get a modelling amp that has all that stuff built-in


This.

It just simplifies things so much. I bought a Marshall Code 100W head with a 4x12” cabinet for around $650 new. You can get a Code 50W combo amp with 1-12” speaker for $300. Aside from all the presets and the built in pedals if you want to create your own sounds, you can just go to their website and download the settings (via bluetooth from your phone or from a wired laptop connection) for any song or album. I bought the extra footswitch that stores 20 of my most popular settings, or you can just use the footswitch that comes with it to scroll through all 100 stored on the amp.
Posted by Fishwater
Carcosa
Member since Aug 2010
6077 posts
Posted on 9/30/19 at 5:11 pm to
If your amp doesn't have a built in reverb, then a reverb along with these guys:

Ibanez TS9 Tube Screamer:


Boss DD3 Delay:
LINK

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