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educate me on record players

Posted on 8/3/14 at 5:03 pm
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/3/14 at 5:03 pm
So my girlfriend really killed it for my birthday this year, and she wants a record player for hers (coming up soon). I'm an audiophile for sure, but I know very little about record players. I want to get her a nice set up because it's something I'm into too and I've got a bunch of good vinyls that I never get to hear.

My budget isn't strict, but I'm not trying to spend $2500 on a setup. I've been looking at the Audio Technica LP120 and people seem to have a lot of good things to say about it. What else do I need besides the player? Just a receiver and speakers?

My old man has an old Marantz receiver, but I don't know where it is and it probably needs new tubes. I'd rather get her a new one in good shape...but not looking to get crappy Best Buy kind of stuff. Could you guys recommend a receiver and speakers? Or other turntables? I'd really like to get a Sondek...but like I said...little out of my range.

Thanks.

Posted by Vdrine
Big Bad Baz
Member since Jun 2014
888 posts
Posted on 8/3/14 at 6:09 pm to
Rega puts out a good turntable you should find one you like. If you buy a Rega buy this with it REGA - TT-PSU 2.

If your dad has a tube Marantz from the late 60's early 70's get it refurbished those were really good amps plus it should have a phono in.

edit: If you want natural sound Zu makes very natural sounding speakers I want these Omen Def .

Omen Def [Mk.I-B] Quick Specs

Height: 47” [119.5cm]
Footprint: 12 x 12” [30.5 x 30.5cm]
Weight: 78 pounds [36kg] each
Bandwidth: 30 – 25kHz
Efficiency: 100 dB SPL 1W, 1m
Impedance: 8 ohm
Power Amp Range: 2 – 400 watt
Made In Ogden, Utah—U.S.A.
This post was edited on 8/3/14 at 9:56 pm
Posted by shutterspeed
MS Gulf Coast
Member since May 2007
73841 posts
Posted on 8/3/14 at 6:27 pm to
If you don't want to go expensive, then go vintage. I love those little record players in a box w/ built-in speakers. A big part of the charm of vinyl for me is the timeless aesthetic to it.

Google "record player in a box and Target."

If that's too lo-fi and you're ambitious, Google the old Firestone cabinets.

This post was edited on 8/3/14 at 6:29 pm
Posted by 15sammy34
Auburn, AL
Member since Oct 2011
16137 posts
Posted on 8/3/14 at 6:38 pm to
Hipster etc...
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5892 posts
Posted on 8/3/14 at 6:52 pm to
I really just want it for true analog sound. Can't beat it IMO. So I don't mind spending some money. I looked at the all-in-one deals and they're not really what I'm looking for. Ideally this is something we'd both be able to get into, and I don't want to spend money just to go upgrade soon.

On my phone now, but I'll check out the Rega stuff ASAP.
Posted by Sayre
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Nov 2011
5754 posts
Posted on 8/3/14 at 7:35 pm to
I've found Craigslist to be a good source for both vintage and current record players.
Posted by adono
River Ridge
Member since Sep 2003
7307 posts
Posted on 8/3/14 at 8:43 pm to
I'm a firm believer that a nice vintage TT is better than anything you can buy today...unless you're willing to dish out about $3,000 for the TT and cartridge. Here's the deal on a vintage TT, stick with a high end Japanese brand and never ever get a belt driven unit ; they usually have a floating chassis and the performance suffers (Direct Drive tables are better).
Best vintage TT you can get for the money is a Kenwood KD990. If you find one in good shape, it should go for $500-$700. This thing blows most $3,000 tables out the water.

As for speakers, I'm partial to a good set of Bose 901s (anything pass Series III) with the equalizer. That's just my taste.

As for amp. I'll go with the another poster who recommended a refurnished McIntosh tube amp/tuner.

This post was edited on 8/4/14 at 6:43 am
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2005
27539 posts
Posted on 8/4/14 at 2:56 am to
since no one has said it yet, you either need a relatively expensive new receiver or an old one that has a phono input. Phono outputs will not go into a regular aux inout.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 8/4/14 at 7:49 am to
The tubes on that old Marantz are probably fine, but it may need a good cleaning of the pots. It's really simple. Just take the cover off and a few squirts of de-oxit contact cleaner in the back of all the knobs and switches and it'll be running good as new. I did it to my old Marantz a few years ago.

I'm a vintage fan. I'm running an old Pioneer turntable through a mold Marantz receiver in my basement, and an old Trchnics turntable through an old Pioneer receiver in my garage.
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 8/4/14 at 10:29 am to
quote:

The tubes on that old Marantz are probably fine, but it may need a good cleaning of the pots. It's really simple. Just take the cover off and a few squirts of de-oxit contact cleaner in the back of all the knobs and switches and it'll be running good as new. I did it to my old Marantz a few years ago.


Listen to this guy. You need to find that Marantz and report back what model it is. It could be worth a lot. I've done repairs and restores on several 70's Marantz receivers. Sometimes all they need is a cleaning, which anyone can do.
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5892 posts
Posted on 8/4/14 at 11:37 am to
It's a 2245. It's a good receiver. I just don't know what kind of shape it's in.
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 8/4/14 at 1:46 pm to
That's a good one. I would try to salvage it. If you think its in too bad of shape, I can take it off your hands.
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
5892 posts
Posted on 8/4/14 at 1:55 pm to
If the Marantz needs work, who can I talk to around Baton Rouge or New Orleans to do some work on it?
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 8/4/14 at 3:14 pm to
No idea. I live in Austin. There is a great messageboard that I can refer you to - Audiokarma.

LINK

The people there are nice and have helped me fix several receivers myself, and I'm a novice. It's a good idea to post any issues you are having on there first before bringing it to someone, because it's not cheap to have a tech do it.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
57372 posts
Posted on 8/4/14 at 4:22 pm to
My girlfriend's birthday was last month and I bought her this record player. It seems to work perfectly, and she likes it a lot.

LINK
This post was edited on 8/4/14 at 4:25 pm
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
85934 posts
Posted on 8/4/14 at 4:38 pm to
quote:

I'm an audiophile for sure


What kind of gear do you own?
Posted by moon
USA
Member since Dec 2010
2703 posts
Posted on 8/4/14 at 4:45 pm to
Step 1: Don't call it a Record Player unless you are like 85

It's called a turntable.

Posted by Marco Esquandolas
Member since Jul 2013
11881 posts
Posted on 8/4/14 at 7:45 pm to
quote:

What kind of gear do you have?


Here is my rig...




The turntable is a VPI Aries 3 with a Lyra cartridge...btw.
Posted by adono
River Ridge
Member since Sep 2003
7307 posts
Posted on 8/4/14 at 7:50 pm to
Just looked at that Audio Technica LP120 you mentioned in your post. If you're going new, that looks like a really nice choice. Well worth the $250 it cost.
Posted by Marco Esquandolas
Member since Jul 2013
11881 posts
Posted on 8/4/14 at 7:55 pm to
The Pro-Ject Debut 3 Carbon with the Ortofon 2M Red cartridge is fantastic for the $$$...$400 retail and can be had new for about $350 delivered.

I have one in a second system and it holds its own against some of the big gun 'tables.
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