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Celebrity Skin
Arguably the 2nd biggest sellout album in music history after Load, yet an oddly satisfying punctuation mark on the grunge era. 20+ years later and I’m still not entirely sure how to feel about it.


BCMCubs
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re: Celebrity Skin
Wasnt the Black Album the sellout album?


Brosef Stalin
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re: Celebrity Skin
Depending on who you ask, Ride the Lightning was the sellout album.


Draconian Sanctions
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re: Celebrity Skin
Metallica somehow managed to sell out twice


timbo
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re: Celebrity Skin
I think it’s a fricking fantastic record. Malibu, Reasons to Be Beautiful are great tracks. I dunno if it’s a sellout record - it’s polished as hell but it fits in with Live Through This. Too bad the band imploded and Courtney Love looks like a Real Housewife now.


PiscesTiger
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re: Celebrity Skin
What are we talking about here? Metallica or Hole?


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PiscesTiger
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re: Celebrity Skin
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Depending on who you ask, Ride the Lightning was the sellout album.


Album is the epitome of anything but. Anyone who thinks this must get envious at toast. I have met some Metallica snobs who have said such about ...And Justice for All but damn Ride the Lightning is heavy and dark as hell.
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Album is the epitome of anything but. Anyone who thinks this must get envious at toast. I have met some Metallica snobs who have said such about ...And Justice for All but damn Ride the Lightning is heavy and dark as hell.
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He is referring to Metallica fans being pissed that Fade to Black was basically considered a ballad at that time & the Kill Em All die hards were not happy about that song.


PiscesTiger
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re: Celebrity Skin
I see that. But Fade to Black is about the furthest from a true ballad I ever heard (I am not aiming at you nor him...I know yall do not feel that way). I think it is honestly one of the heaviest songs they did even though it may not allow one to thrash like Battery or Hit the Lights.


Brosef Stalin
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re: Celebrity Skin
It was an 80s mentality that metal bands shouldn't have slow songs. I guess they forgot about Black Sabbath and Judas Priest doing slow stuff before that.


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PiscesTiger
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Jesus metal 80s people...I forget how stuck up they were. Planet Caravan anyone? Changes?


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MorbidTheClown
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re: Celebrity Skin
Always wondered if Cobain wrote the songs for Hole. Not a lot of post Kurt stuff from them.


AlxTgr
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I think it’s a fricking fantastic record


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timbo
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re: Celebrity Skin
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Always wondered if Cobain wrote the songs for Hole. Not a lot of post Kurt stuff from them.


That was always the rumor, but I think that was mainly caused by people hating Courtney Love. (Just like there are idiots who say she killed Kurt Cobain. The guy started talking about suicide as a teen. He was hard-wired to be miserable.) Besides, Nirvana and Hole were totally different in terms of lyrics. I love Nirvana, but the songs are about masculinity, body horror and suicide.

The reason there wasn't a lot of post-Kurt Cobain Hole songs is that Courtney Love jumped head first into drug addiction and trying to make it as an actress.


Ace Midnight
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re: Celebrity Skin
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Metallica somehow managed to sell out completely


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Brosef Stalin
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re: Celebrity Skin
Everyone knows Billy Corgan wrote Live Through This. Courtney was cheating on Kurt with him at the time and he was always in the studio with her.


MorbidTheClown
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re: Celebrity Skin
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mainly caused by people hating Courtney Love.


yeah, i never had any hate for her. Actually enjoyed the first 2 albums.

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Courtney Love jumped head first into drug addiction


amazingly Frances Bean seems to be rather level headed.


AlxTgr
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re: Celebrity Skin
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Everyone knows Billy Corgan
co-wrote the musical arrangements on five songs.


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timbo
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amazingly Frances Bean seems to be rather level headed.


I think Frances Bean was raised by one of Kurt Cobain's relatives, like an aunt or something. It is astonishing to see that she turned out to be a fairly normal, low profile person.


MorbidTheClown
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It is astonishing to see that she turned out to be a fairly normal, low profile person.



yeah, i remember thinking when hurt died and courtney always seemed stoned, that kid had no chance.


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