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Can someone point me in a direction. Guitar setup?

Posted on 11/30/16 at 5:56 pm
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/30/16 at 5:56 pm
I can jack with my acoustic guitar somewhat. Now that I bought a little starter guitar I'm at a loss with the videos. YouTube videos go from 5 minutes to 65 minutes? I have a Squier Strat in standard size. It has the basic tremolo bridge that I am NOT using the bar for. I took it off. Guitar sounds ok to my ear. It loses tune a bit but nothing crazy IMO.

Just looking for a direction on videos or a particular guy. Saw some Scott Grove videos. Guy sounds crazy and rambles for 20 minutes to tell you very little. Looking to first try and work with what I have. Just the stock out of the box parts. I'm a year or so away from thinking about upgrading pick ups and on and on....

I saw one. "Fender University" video? Seemed pretty straight forward? Just one video though?
Posted by TigerRanter
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
6856 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 6:03 pm to
Marty Schwartz and Papa Stache are pretty good on youtube. Depends on what you want to learn. Rhythm? Lead? Songs?
This post was edited on 11/30/16 at 6:06 pm
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27872 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 6:19 pm to
No no. Not lessons. I agree with you their.

I meant just the simple tech stuff like changing strings and intonation? Or is intonation not a simple thing?
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 11/30/16 at 6:24 pm to
Posted by TigerRanter
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
6856 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 6:50 pm to
Sorry about that. Try StewMac.
Posted by ddbnsb
Raised in New Orleans
Member since Dec 2005
3520 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 7:59 pm to
quote:

Marty Schwartz and Papa Stache are pretty good on youtube


Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27872 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 8:29 pm to
Thank you both. Just saw that luthier mentioned in a YouTube video with GE Smith.

Please keep em coming.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 8:33 pm to
To improve the ability to stay in tune on a tremolo strat when you have no need for the whammy bar, take the spring cover off the back of the guitar, there will more than likely be 3 springs installed, but you will see holes for two additional springs. Purchase two additional springs and install them, the extra spring tension will minimize movement of the bridge and the detuning it can cause. Also, make sure the four neck attachment screws are tight.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27872 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 8:36 pm to
I take back my previous thank you. That damn stew Mac site looks chok full of shite that be used for unnecessarily high end wood working. Yet another hobby.

Finishing papers and lacquers. Damn it!
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
31959 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 9:19 pm to
intonation is pretty simple. just use a chromatic tuner,tune each string open at 440,then fret on the 12th. Make your adjustments with the little screws at the bridge for each string,until you get 440 open & also at the 12th fret. you might have to keep retuning and trying at first. basically,all you are doing is shortening,or lengthening the distance between the 12th fret and the bridge.

Find a good local guitar tech to hang out with a bit,and milk him for information.
This post was edited on 11/30/16 at 9:24 pm
Posted by TigerRanter
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
6856 posts
Posted on 11/30/16 at 10:40 pm to
quote:

I take back my previous thank you. That damn stew Mac site looks chok full of shite that be used for unnecessarily high end wood working. Yet another hobby.

Finishing papers and lacquers. Damn it!

Get in there on those "How-to" vids. It's a wealth of info.
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14974 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 1:45 am to
Those videos are fantastic.
Posted by ChatRabbit77
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
5910 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 8:09 am to
quote:

intonation

Intonation has a ton to do with finger position on frets.
Posted by HazelMotes
at Sonic deescalating the situation
Member since Nov 2016
187 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 8:54 am to
Just learn how to read tabs and couple that with tutorial videos. Building up your finger strength/ calluses is key. Just get into the habit of playing every day, even if you squeeze in a couple scales during a muted commercial break, every little bit helps. And don't get discouraged - there are no real shortcuts. It sounds cliche, but you really do get in what you put out.

ETA ultimate-guitar.com is a great place to start. I find it helps to actually print them out and follow along as opposed to reading off a screen.
This post was edited on 12/1/16 at 8:55 am
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
16413 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 10:52 am to
quote:

Or is intonation not a simple thing?


It's a very simple thing, but if you are jacking around with the original bridge setup then I don't know what you have.

Tune your guitar then play a note on the 12th fret. There should be a small phillips screw on the back side of the bridge that will push/pull the saddle forwards and backwards. Keep adjusting until you are properly in pitch. Move on to the next string.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27872 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 12:08 pm to
quote:

if you are jacking around with the original bridge setup then I don't know what you have.


Yes original. Squier tremolo (that will never move) system. Six adjustable saddles.

quote:

Tune your guitar then play a note on the 12th fret. There should be a small phillips screw on the back side of the bridge that will push/pull the saddle forwards and backwards. Keep adjusting until you are properly in pitch. Move on to the next string.



Playing a note on the 12 th fret? What will it be in pitch with? As I type this question I can tell I probably need to find better videos. I saw one video where playing on the 12th is mentioned, but to what end and pitch?
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
16413 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 12:25 pm to
quote:

Playing a note on the 12 th fret? What will it be in pitch with? As I type this question I can tell I probably need to find better videos. I saw one video where playing on the 12th is mentioned, but to what end and pitch?



Have your guitar plugged into a chromatic tuner, and tune the open strings to standard 440. After that, let's start with the low E string. Play the note at the 12th fret. This is an E note where the fretboard starts over so it should be in pitch with E on your tuner. If it's slightly flat/high adjust the saddle either forwards or backwards until you get it to it's proper E note. Hit the low E open again and retune. Move back to the 12th fret and keep repeating this process until your open E note and your 12th fret E note are both in pitch. That string is intonated. Move on to the A string next and repeat.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
31959 posts
Posted on 12/1/16 at 6:02 pm to
quote:

Playing a note on the 12 th fret? What will it be in pitch with? As I type this question I can tell I probably need to find better videos. I saw one video where playing on the 12th is mentioned, but to what end and pitch?


Just a suggestion here: It might be a good time to learn all the notes.It's really not that hard. All the strings work the same way,and progress through 12 notes the same way.They just start in different open notes.

Once you learn that,you can start thinking of playing in a mathematical way.Transposing songs to a better key for you,or a singer becomes much easier.
Posted by RabidTiger
Member since Nov 2009
3127 posts
Posted on 12/2/16 at 12:09 am to
quote:

Playing a note on the 12 th fret? What will it be in pitch with? As I type this question I can tell I probably need to find better videos. I saw one video where playing on the 12th is mentioned, but to what end and pitch?


It's an octave, so the twelfth fret is the same note as the open string just an octave higher. So your low 6th string open is an E the twelfth fret on the 6th string is also an E.

When you adjust intonation you are ensuring that the two pitches are correct and in tune with each other.

If a guitar has poor intonation, then it can be in tune on the low end of the neck but out of tune on the higher end. For example an open chord might sound fine, but play the same shape past the twelfth fret, and it might sound off.

It shouldn't really need to be adjusted very often.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27872 posts
Posted on 12/2/16 at 7:00 am to
quote:

It's an octave, so the twelfth fret is the same note as the open string just an octave higher. So your low 6th string open is an E the twelfth fret on the 6th string is also an E.



On a simplistic level I knew this.

With regard to the tuner, I thought they only read one E note. Or the EADGBE notes that the nut produces.
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