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re: Audiophile/Vinyl Thread - Post Pics, Advice, Questions, Setups, etc.

Posted on 3/14/16 at 7:20 pm to
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 3/14/16 at 7:20 pm to
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Also--what is the turntable and cartridge?


I don't have the turntable here. I will have it tomorrow and I'll post some info.

The CD is:

Sony Model Number RCD-W500C



ETA: Thank you for the isolation info. i will look into it
This post was edited on 3/14/16 at 7:23 pm
Posted by Jail Cell Odell
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Posted on 3/14/16 at 7:47 pm to
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Exactly what are you unsure of?...it's a record.


Sites like discogs operate much in the same way that Ebay does. A buyer pays and a seller ships their record(s) to them. I know people who have had great success finding good stuff, but I also know people who have been completely ripped off. Was simply trying to get some input as to how people like to buy used records using discogs or similar sites.
Posted by Marco Esquandolas
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Posted on 3/14/16 at 7:54 pm to
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BlackHelicoptorPilot


It looks as though that CD player has a digital optical output. All you need is an optical digital cable (sometimes called Toslink) to go from the CD player to the optical input on the Peachtree integrated amplifier. If you do it this way, you will be using the digital processors in the Peachtree rather than those in the CD player...and it will free up the analog input for something else, like the turntable.





Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 3/14/16 at 7:58 pm to
Awesome!!!


Thank you.

Now, I just have to learn what the hell all that means


I will definitely make that change. Is there anything special about that cable? I mean, can I just go get any one or is there junk vs quality in that cable that I need to be aware of?


ETA: Wow. My buddy made me buy some stuff. One was a Digital Optical Audio Cable. So, I already have one
This post was edited on 3/14/16 at 8:02 pm
Posted by Marco Esquandolas
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Posted on 3/14/16 at 9:36 pm to
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BlackHelicopterPilot



Nice!!

Looks like your friend anticipated you one day connecting another digital source and using the optical input!
It never hurts to have an array of cables for when just this type of thing comes up.

You don't HAVE to use the optical input, per se, but if you run the CD player into the analog input, you won't be able to run the turntable into the Peachtree. If I am correct, the Peachtree only has one analog input (RCA), and 4 digital (USB, optical, and 2 coax). So you will need to connect the optical cable to the "digital out" on the CD player and run it to the optical input on the Peachtree.

I also run a MacMini as one of my digital sources. I would recommend downloading a program such as "Amarra" or "Pure Music" or "Audirvana"--these are all "players" for iTunes.

What does that mean??...iTunes will allow you to store HiRez files (24 bit/192k), but will only play back up to CD quality (16 bit/44.1k). Why apple does this--no one knows--because Apple. Audiophiles have been bitching to Apple about this for years, to no avail. So some folks created software to allow for it.

If you ever want to download a really HiRez file (above 16/44.1) from the likes of HDTracks, or many musicians websites--more are doing HiRez daily) and play it back through your system in its full bit/sample rate resolution, you will need to "boot out" the iTunes Player for one of the ones mentioned above.

I don't have a boatload of 24/96 files, but the ones I do have are music that lends itself to taking advantage of the higher resolution (think Diana Krall, George Benson, Keith Jarrett, James Ingram, Michael Jackson, Grover Washington Jr., Quincy Jones, etc. --they were recorded exceptionally well to begin with). Try some out and judge the difference in resolution rates for yourself.

This does not mean you need to boot out iTunes--you just basically use iTunes as a library and, say, Amarra, as the player. When you have Amarra or Pure Music loaded and click on its icon on the dashboard, it automatically opens iTunes. It displays a small audio player above the iTunes screen. Ir will also display the bit and sample rates of the music being played. It is pretty simple, and it replaces the Apple player automatically upon running the program.

The add on programs are like $30-$50, and they offer 30 day trial periods.

What it does is allow the HiRez files to be played and sent to the Peachtree, which can decode up to 24/192 files (I believe the new Peachtree models may even do DXD/DSD--Direct Stream Digital--which is what SACD is--über HiRez!!).

Your friend steered you into some decent gear. Buy him a beer.

Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 3/14/16 at 9:39 pm to
Yeeeesh.

I have a lot to learn.

Thank you for your help
Posted by Marco Esquandolas
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Posted on 3/14/16 at 9:50 pm to
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Jail Cell Odell



Is there a specific genre of music you like? I ask because most of the '60's through '90's music has been repressed and most modern day stuff is released on vinyl. That being said, I find that what places that are legit charge for an original pressing starts to encroach on the price of buying a new copy...and you don't have do deal with "grading inaccuracies" of records when buying new.

Now, if you are a hard core Underground garage band junkie, well you may be at the mercy of the used record store. But even now I am surprised at all the old rare stuff that I see being repressed.

As far as Discogs goes, I believe them to be trustworthy. I have only purchased a couple LPs from them, but it was a very rare original WSP record (still not re released) and a Phish record that was limited to 1000 copies back in 1997...they had them and I paid a handsome sum for them, but they were as advertised.


Posted by NewIberiaHaircut
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Posted on 3/14/16 at 11:27 pm to
Marco, have you ever listened to Polk's 1.2TL speakers? These things have always intrigued me for some reason. I'm always looking for a good deal on these things. Any opinions? My wife would kill me if these things showed up at my house but I still lust after them for some reason.


Posted by Marco Esquandolas
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Posted on 3/15/16 at 12:00 am to
I have not, but This Guy has heard them a bunch...

Posted by Marco Esquandolas
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Posted on 3/15/16 at 12:15 am to
Posted by NewIberiaHaircut
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Posted on 3/15/16 at 1:01 am to
Well, that article definitely didn't help my obsession!
Posted by CocoLoco
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Posted on 3/15/16 at 6:48 am to
Any of you guys ever had issues ordering vinyls from Amazon?

First time ordering a vinyl online and I have read a few reviews of people saying the record was warped some.
Posted by Marco Esquandolas
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Posted on 3/15/16 at 7:38 am to
I have never ordered from Amazon...sorry for no info here.

Posted by RaginCajunz
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Posted on 3/15/16 at 8:58 am to
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Any of you guys ever had issues ordering vinyls from Amazon?

First time ordering a vinyl online and I have read a few reviews of people saying the record was warped some.


I've only had one issue. It was a bad pressing with the A and B side both containing the A music. Other than that, no issues.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 3/15/16 at 11:37 am to
The turntable is a Pioneer PL-41
Posted by Marco Esquandolas
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Posted on 3/15/16 at 2:26 pm to
Wow---I actually had one for years!!

If you read back 15-20 pages in this thread, you will read how I helped a Tulane Law student out by lending him some old gear that I had. Well, the little fricker split town and took a bunch of the stuff I lent him...including the Pioneer PL-41 that my uncle brought back from Vietnam. it had a Sumiko Blue Point cart and was fully restored.

I know the table well--it is a tank with a heavy top plate and wooden sides. Just regrease the bearing.

If you want an original box for the PL-41 (still have it) and inserts for the table, you can have mine since I don't have the table anymore. Let me know and I can get it to you.


Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 3/15/16 at 2:30 pm to
Wow. You are awesome.

I'm going to look it over well this evening and I'll give an update about it. Yes, it is a big monster.

Do you have a specific pre amp recommendation since you had the same unit?
Posted by JumpingTheShark
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Posted on 3/15/16 at 2:41 pm to
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Any of you guys ever had issues ordering vinyls from Amazon? First time ordering a vinyl online and I have read a few reviews of people saying the record was warped some


The only issue I have had is they left the package out during a rain storm and it ruined the packaging, but other than that they come in very sturdy packaging and the quality is good. Sometimes the sleeve will be slightly bent or torn, but I am not really ordering any collectibles from there. EDIT: This is still a rare occurrence. As long as the album cover and record are in good shape, I am good with the whole thing. I ordered the Beatles Mono box set from them and the Sgt Peppers B Side has the label for the Help! B Side, but plays the Sgt Peppers B Side anyway. I don't think that is on Amazon, I think that is the manufacturer.
This post was edited on 3/15/16 at 2:43 pm
Posted by Marco Esquandolas
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Posted on 3/15/16 at 3:00 pm to
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Do you have a specific pre amp recommendation since you had the same unit?



That depends upon the cartridge, not the table. The cartridge will present an electrical voltage and load to the pre amp. Different cartridges have different characteristics and output voltages.

Once you give me the model and make of the cart, I can recommend something.


Posted by river_man
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Posted on 3/15/16 at 8:58 pm to
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Marco


On your side rig, the one with the Pro ject table, what speakers were those and what were you pushing them with? It slipped my mind, but I do remember how good they sounded.
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