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Another Fretshack question, since he is being so generous with his knowledge
Posted on 1/8/20 at 8:45 pm
Posted on 1/8/20 at 8:45 pm
I have an Indonesian made Squier Strat deluxe, that has the Seymour Duncan (designed) pick ups in it.It's just one that I took on a trade, but I really like the tone of this guitar, it's pretty clean, sweet and plays nice, the bridge is crappy though, and I don't use a whammy much any way. What is the best method to just lock that bridge down? So that somebody could use it later if they wanted. It has what I have always called the Alloy bridge, with individual saddles.
I can bend the guitar a little bit, to get whatever small amount of trem that I want. Been doing that for years without any bad results.
Thanx in advance, you are for sure The best source on this board for this type of info, And I for certain, appreciate it.
I can bend the guitar a little bit, to get whatever small amount of trem that I want. Been doing that for years without any bad results.
Thanx in advance, you are for sure The best source on this board for this type of info, And I for certain, appreciate it.
This post was edited on 1/8/20 at 9:08 pm
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Posted on 1/9/20 at 6:39 am to auggie
I can give you the YouTube answer or some forums (not this one).
Drop in a graph tech all steel and alloy bridge and block system. The $300 will be well worth it.
Comb reverb for vintage parts. You should be able to find a bridge term block system from 1954-1960 for a grand or two. Will play like butter. You’re welcome.
Final reply. Usually employed by salesman.... The guitar you mention is a pile of excrement. Kick in an extra $500 bucks to at least buy a MIM strat. Take the other guitar and burn it in a ceremonial fire in the presence of the new guitar, so that guitar will know better than to suck. This will excorcise all poor notes from the new guitar.
Those are the 3 options you have until. Fret Shack comes along to give the sensible answer.
Hope this helps. :-)
Drop in a graph tech all steel and alloy bridge and block system. The $300 will be well worth it.
Comb reverb for vintage parts. You should be able to find a bridge term block system from 1954-1960 for a grand or two. Will play like butter. You’re welcome.
Final reply. Usually employed by salesman.... The guitar you mention is a pile of excrement. Kick in an extra $500 bucks to at least buy a MIM strat. Take the other guitar and burn it in a ceremonial fire in the presence of the new guitar, so that guitar will know better than to suck. This will excorcise all poor notes from the new guitar.
Those are the 3 options you have until. Fret Shack comes along to give the sensible answer.
Hope this helps. :-)
Posted on 1/9/20 at 7:38 am to LSU alum wannabe
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Hope this helps. :-)
Yeah, no, It's still a Squier, maybe a 200 buck guitar. I would figure out how to JB weld the bridge down stationary, before I spend more than 50 bucks on it. I don't care what it looks like, as long as it plays like I want. I hate to do anything so drastic though, because somebody else might want it later.
There are easy ways to do it, I have just never done it myself. The guitar sounds great, if it weren't for the bridge moving. Maybe just heavy springs and a piece of wood underneath the bridge...we'll see.
I wish I had a Paulownia Nashville telecaster body, then I could make an almost perfect guitar from this and that. I haven't found one yet though.
I have a Mexican Nashville telly, that I would like to put these pick ups in, but it's a swamp ash body and heavy as hell, So that's out.
This post was edited on 1/9/20 at 7:58 am
Posted on 1/9/20 at 8:33 am to auggie
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Mexican Nashville telly
Is that a square-bodied Tele, or is it contoured like a Strat? Could trim some weight by contouring the body.
Just throwing that out there.
Posted on 1/9/20 at 8:41 am to auggie
Wooden block to block the trem. I’ve done it with glued together popsicle sticks, but you can cut a piece and fit it in there.
This post was edited on 1/9/20 at 8:42 am
Posted on 1/9/20 at 8:56 am to FightinTigersDammit
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Is that a square-bodied Tele, or is it contoured like a Strat? Could trim some weight by contouring the body. Just throwing that out there.
Yeah, it's a square body, but it has a real nice Candy Apple finish, I would hate to go cutting on it.
It's not a bad idea though, if weren't in such nice condition.
It needs a new owner, who doesn't have my back and shoulder problems.
Almost all of my electric guitars are seeming too heavy these days.
I have this one guitar that is all classic vibe telly parts and neck, put on to a paulownia body, and that thing is getting played more than anything else. Even this squire strat is heavier than I like these days. I think it's an alder body.
This post was edited on 1/9/20 at 9:13 am
Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:03 am to TigerRanter
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Wooden block to block the trem. I’ve done it with glued together popsicle sticks, but you can cut a piece and fit it in there.
Yep, that's probably what I am going to end up doing.
Did it stay wedged in tight?
I'm thinking on heavy bends it might slip out?
Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:06 am to auggie
It won’t come out if you fit it correctly to where the bridge is flush with the body.
Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:20 am to TigerRanter
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It won’t come out if you fit it correctly to where the bridge is flush with the body.
This particular bridge floats about 3/32s above the body. To make it flush is going to cause some other problems.
Was just looking at the bridge on my 72 thinline telly, and I might be able to make a bridge similar to that work.
Everything seems be close to same dimensions. Just have to drill a couple of holes in the body for the back screws.
This post was edited on 1/9/20 at 9:44 am
Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:42 am to auggie
Definitely not going to be Fret Shack approved, but...
Wedge something between the bridge and the body from behind so it can't move up. So if you dived on it, the bridge would be impeded by the object sandwich between the bridge and the body. I have seen a quarters, nuts, etc all jammed in there.
Wedge something between the bridge and the body from behind so it can't move up. So if you dived on it, the bridge would be impeded by the object sandwich between the bridge and the body. I have seen a quarters, nuts, etc all jammed in there.
Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:54 am to lsu1919
yeah, I'm gonna cut out a piece of wood to put in there, to fit tight, then put heavy springs on it. Maybe it will work.
Posted on 1/9/20 at 10:55 am to auggie
Put five springs on the tremolo and tighten the claw as tight to the body as you can. Then deck the trem flat against the body by tightening the plate's fulcrum screws. Raise the saddles and/or remove any shim(s) from the neck pocket to return the string action back to where you liked it.
If you block the trem with hardwood, I like using blank rosewood acoustic bridge stock, or kiln-dried mahogany stock. However, I'd suspect you won't notice a trememdous tone or stability difference. Overkill really, even with nice tonewood bodies and tonewood stablization blocks. Just do what I described in the first paragraph and you'll be fine. And it's completely reversible should you sell the guitar later.
If you block the trem with hardwood, I like using blank rosewood acoustic bridge stock, or kiln-dried mahogany stock. However, I'd suspect you won't notice a trememdous tone or stability difference. Overkill really, even with nice tonewood bodies and tonewood stablization blocks. Just do what I described in the first paragraph and you'll be fine. And it's completely reversible should you sell the guitar later.
Posted on 1/9/20 at 11:08 am to TheFretShack
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Put five springs on the tremolo and tighten the claw as tight to the body as you can. Then deck the trem flat against the body by tightening the plate's fulcrum screws. Raise the saddles and/or remove any shim(s) from the neck pocket to return the string action back to where you liked it.
Thanks man, that's about what my friend said too, I think I will run it by his shop this afternoon and let him take care of it.
I really would like to find a paulownia Nashville telly body though. Have any ideas besides guitar fetish? They don't have it. Thanx a million.
Posted on 1/9/20 at 12:39 pm to auggie
I have yet to be impressed by anything from Guitar Fetish, especially anything they make involving wood. Their wood selection, jointing and pre-drilled stuff, it's horrid IMHO and dirt cheap for a reason.
I'm not impressed by paulownia either. Just because it's lightweight doesn't mean it's a great tonewood. Shipping pallets are lightweight. So is cork.
I'm not impressed by paulownia either. Just because it's lightweight doesn't mean it's a great tonewood. Shipping pallets are lightweight. So is cork.
Posted on 1/9/20 at 4:01 pm to TheFretShack
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I'm not impressed by paulownia either. Just because it's lightweight doesn't mean it's a great tonewood. Shipping pallets are lightweight. So is cork.
I have the one telecaster that is Paulownia, and I really like it, mainly because it is so lightweight and it sounds pretty good too.
I aint looking to put together a fantastic guitar, I already have some of those, but with my back and shoulder problems, I am not getting to play them much. I am just wanting to have a pretty good one, that I can stand to play more often, It's a trade off.
My shoulder is so bad right now, it's painful to pick up a gallon of milk. If it weren't for that, I have everything that I need.
I understand that you suggest better woods, and I 100% agree with you, but I have a unique situation that I am having to deal with for a little while.
Posted on 1/9/20 at 4:16 pm to lsu1919
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I have seen a quarters, nuts, etc all jammed in there.
I have a Strat that I opened up to find out why the tone was so bad. There was a piece of t-shirt stuffed in between the sustain block and the body.
Posted on 1/9/20 at 6:06 pm to MountainTiger
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a Strat that I opened up to find out why the tone was so bad. There was a piece of t-s
Bet that was one gamey piece of cloth. Lol
Posted on 1/9/20 at 7:26 pm to auggie
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it has a real nice Candy Apple finish, I would hate to go cutting on it.
I don't blame you there.
Posted on 1/9/20 at 7:57 pm to FightinTigersDammit
If you like paulownia, that's fine, some guys swear by it. Some guys swear by pine. It's so light and soft, it dents if you look at it funny, but that's the only reason Leo Fender rejected it in favor of ash for his Broadcaster. He loved the light weight, the tone and the affordability. He would have loved paulownia haha.
You can spec lightweight alder or lightweight ash that's shoulder, back and joint friendly and the upcharge for the prime wood and ideal weight is absolutely worth it. The alder body on my personal tele - which a lot of guys think is the best tele in BR - I handpicked for weight. The guitar weighs six pounds and some change.
Quality basswood, of the ilk used not by MII/MIC/MIK Ibanez but by MIJ Ibanez, Tom Anderson and EBMM, is also a weight friendly option that sounds balanced acoustically and can be sourced affordably.
And of course korina or limba are lightweight mahog varieties but be prepared to pay a premium. It's deemed a grail wood among folks so it's priced accordingly.
One more pic of my tele, man, I love this guitar ...
You can spec lightweight alder or lightweight ash that's shoulder, back and joint friendly and the upcharge for the prime wood and ideal weight is absolutely worth it. The alder body on my personal tele - which a lot of guys think is the best tele in BR - I handpicked for weight. The guitar weighs six pounds and some change.
Quality basswood, of the ilk used not by MII/MIC/MIK Ibanez but by MIJ Ibanez, Tom Anderson and EBMM, is also a weight friendly option that sounds balanced acoustically and can be sourced affordably.
And of course korina or limba are lightweight mahog varieties but be prepared to pay a premium. It's deemed a grail wood among folks so it's priced accordingly.
One more pic of my tele, man, I love this guitar ...
Posted on 1/9/20 at 9:24 pm to TheFretShack
Who's Nashville telly bodies do you recommend for lightweight alder?
That I could order with no worries?
Even a Thinline semi-hollow telly body, routed for 3 single coils would be cool. As a matter of fact, that might be perfect.
I did some searching online overnight, and came across a company named USA Customs that looks pretty good, and their prices weren't overboard high. The problem with them is, they have just been acquired by another company, and seem to be in a transitional stage.
Also, anyone else who has a recommendation, feel free to chime in.
That I could order with no worries?
Even a Thinline semi-hollow telly body, routed for 3 single coils would be cool. As a matter of fact, that might be perfect.
I did some searching online overnight, and came across a company named USA Customs that looks pretty good, and their prices weren't overboard high. The problem with them is, they have just been acquired by another company, and seem to be in a transitional stage.
Also, anyone else who has a recommendation, feel free to chime in.
This post was edited on 1/10/20 at 9:08 am
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