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re: 2000s rock/pop songs that'll stand the test of time
Posted on 4/12/18 at 2:13 pm to dawgfan24348
Posted on 4/12/18 at 2:13 pm to dawgfan24348
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Seven Nation Army is played at every sporting event it will easily last
a few bass notes are played, ask the 18 year olds in the student sections what song that is and many probably have no idea
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In The End will too after Chester's death
linkin park is not nearly as influential as you think
When I hear 'timeless' and songs that will "stand the test of time", I think of songs that damn near everybody knows and has heard of and is still going strong. Think about it...when kids these days get to high school they are still gonna listen to Dark Side. They're still gonna listen to zeppelin and the beatles, and this is damn near FIFTY YEARS after recording. Do you truly think in the 2060's kids are gonna say "hey man can I borry your copy of Enema of the state?" It's not gonna happen.
For niche cover bands? Sure they'll live on. For diehard fans of the genre, maybe. But it's just as conceivable they'll get replaced by something else. Music that is truly timeless like floyd and the beatles was revolutionary, it was somethign people hadn't heard before that blew their minds. Sum41 or Greenday or other bands that play 4 chords in a 3 minute pop/rock song aren't unique.
Posted on 4/12/18 at 2:53 pm to PrideofTheSEC
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Incorrect, recorded in 1999. Released in January 2000, as a single.
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Enema of the state: Released June 1, 1999
Recorded January–March 1999
You are correct All the Small Things was technically released in early 2000 as a single, but the album had already been out for 7 months. Who really cares though....
Posted on 4/12/18 at 4:50 pm to WG_Dawg
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Sum41 or Greenday or other bands that play 4 chords in a 3 minute pop/rock song aren't unique
Don't try and get snobby while holding up classic rock bands as somehow these creative geniouses and bands like Sum 41 as a bunch of derivative ignoramuses. 80% of classic rock songs are either 4 chord songs following the same progressions as those pop punk songs or are simple 12 bar blues on a pentatonic scale. It's not rocket science. There are a few truly transcendent songs that use their own scheme or switch their schemes up enough to keep things interesting, but the vast majority is no more complex than All the Small Things. You're just older, so the stuff that was cool when you were younger seems cooler than the stuff that was cool later.
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linkin park is not nearly as influential as you think
Do you know like anyone in their 20's, like at all? Linkin Park was a big deal when a lot of these people were in middle school. Those songs about suicide and depression really resonated with a lot of people. Hell, Linkin Park had a top 40 song on the charts as of a week before Chester killed himself! It's not some niche act of a bigone era. And the fact that the front man died young is going to keep that popularity much higher than it would have been otherwise, like Nirvana, but on a smaller scale. There's at least a few Linkin Park songs that are going to make it into the "classic rock" rotation once they age into it. Get over it. I don't even like Linkin Park, but damn, you have to at least understand that a lot of people did and still do.
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Think about it...when kids these days get to high school they are still gonna listen to Dark Side. They're still gonna listen to zeppelin and the beatles, and this is damn near FIFTY YEARS after recording. Do you truly think in the 2060's kids are gonna say "hey man can I borry your copy of Enema of the state?" It's not gonna happen.
They'll probably still hear all of the following songs regularly:
Semicharmed Life
Wonderwall
All the Small Things
What's My Age Again
4 AM
Kryptonite
Closing Time
Flagpole Sitter
In the Meantime
Ocean Avenue
and the rest of the late 90's/early 2000's canon.
This isn't niche stuff, it's mainstream. A big reason for all of this is because those are songs that were played regularly in the classic teen movies of that time. In case you haven't noticed, Hollywood doesn't make teen movies nearly as often as it used to, so teenagers keep watching those same iconic John Hughes movies from the 80's and American Pie-esque movies from the late 90's over and over again. Guess what music is playing in those movies? Guess what music is played by cover bands at every bar and outdoor event they're going to?
News flash: it's not Blue Oyster Cult and King Crimson, it's pop rock.
When I think "stand the test of time", I think about what a large percentage of people will remember and still listen to. What's going to survive and still be a staple of pop culture? What is going to be the soundtrack of that decade when period pieces are made about it in the future?
Now, if you want to debate what songs have such intrinsic quality that they SHOULD stand the test of time because they have the timeless quality of say, "Kashmir" by Led Zeppelin, I think that's a completely different argument with a completely different set of answers for the most part. Fatlip may be memorable, but it sure as hell isn't "fine art", granted, when classic rock was new, no one considered it "fine art" either.
Posted on 4/12/18 at 5:49 pm to PrideofTheSEC
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