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re: Yellowstone season 4, season long thread.

Posted on 11/8/21 at 11:24 am to
Posted by KajunKouyon
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Posted on 11/8/21 at 11:24 am to
Jamie was also on the phone with Rorque before Beth walked in. He was involved to some extent IMO

Also do you think they will flashback to the 2 month gap in the story line while John was in the coma? Seems like a lot happened within that time frame that nobody will tell him about
Posted by grizzlylongcut
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Posted on 11/8/21 at 11:46 am to
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Also do you think they will flashback to the 2 month gap in the story line while John was in the coma? Seems like a lot happened within that time frame that nobody will tell him about


That's a very good question. The whole time Beth was telling him that they'd wait to tell him all the news without showing what happened with Kayce that he had bit the bullet and then nothing happened on that front. Then they let multiple days and possibly weeks pass without seemingly telling John anything.

That whole deal was strange.
Posted by lsufball19
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Posted on 11/8/21 at 12:04 pm to
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They why when she was in Jamie's office last night she said something like "what you did to my family"

Because Beth hasn't viewed Jamie as a part of the family basically ever. Remember she completely left Jamie out of the trust when she drafted it and then tried to remove him as POA for the ranch. And that was all before anything about the adoption was ever revealed. I think if Beth knew, there would have been at least one off-color adopted kid remark by now, and there hasn't been
This post was edited on 11/8/21 at 12:05 pm
Posted by PaperTiger
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Posted on 11/8/21 at 12:04 pm to
I think they have. Casey wouldn't believe it I don't think unless he caught Jamie red handed. They have had a good relationship up until now.

I think Dutton's ego won't let him believe it 100% yet. But he's putting cards in place to see where Jamie's loyalty stands
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Posted on 11/8/21 at 12:05 pm to
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I guess I'll say it since nobody else is, it is absolute horse shite that Beth survived.


I was coming to post the same. Biggest thing that was far fetched is everyone survived. They were trained militia (as you can tell from the gun fight with Casey on the road), and the hicks in the bunkhouse can take them out?
Beth is 15-20 ft from a bomb that blows out a side of a building, wrecks cars on the road below, and she walks out (in shock, but walks out).
A 90 lb woman surprises one of them, knocking the gun out of his hands, and fights him off long enough for her 10 year old son to blow him away.
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Posted on 11/8/21 at 12:08 pm to
My favorite line from last night:

(Not exact quote)

“Being poor in Montana is just getting welfare with a view”
Posted by KajunKouyon
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Posted on 11/8/21 at 12:09 pm to
If my memory is correct, John wants Casey to get warrants through Jamie’s office to go after the militia, correct? This will let them know where Jamie stands in all of this.

Side question regarding Jamie, what is his dads end game here?
Posted by lsufball19
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Posted on 11/8/21 at 12:10 pm to
The others surviving is believable (possible), but there is now way Beth survives that and then just walks out and starts smoking a cigarette. And even if she did, she'd be in the hospital longer than John having skin grafts and scars over her entire body not just a scratch on her face and burn marks on part of her back. She'd look completely disfigured.
Posted by PaperTiger
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Posted on 11/8/21 at 12:11 pm to
He has to have some role. One of the previews had him saying "it's an empire, and if you want to kill an empire you have to kill the king". Or something like that
Posted by lsufball19
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Posted on 11/8/21 at 12:12 pm to
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what is his dads end game here?

he'll somehow try to frick over/manipulate Jamie to get rich and Jamie will end up killing him if I had to make a prediction. The show has been laying the groundwork since their very first interaction and the foreboding has been set with his father saying what their family does best is killing. I also have a suspicion that Jamie's dad is behind the hit on the family, and the intent was to kill everyone else in the family so Jamie was left with everything.
This post was edited on 11/8/21 at 12:27 pm
Posted by Oates Mustache
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Posted on 11/8/21 at 12:12 pm to
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“Being poor in Montana is just getting welfare with a view


I believe it was "rich", not poor. As in to say, the whole state of Montana is a bunch of trashy hillbillies.
Posted by MickeyLikesDags21
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Posted on 11/8/21 at 12:14 pm to
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Jamie was also on the phone with Rorque before Beth walked in. He was involved to some extent IMO


1) Is that really how it's spelt? I've been using Roarke

2) I don't think this was discussed enough. Jamie was on the phone with him as Beth entered the office. This will definitely come back up again.
Posted by PaperTiger
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Posted on 11/8/21 at 12:15 pm to
I thought Kasey explained it at the spring. He said something like Jamie leased the land instead of selling. That would explain him being on the phone with Roark
This post was edited on 11/8/21 at 12:16 pm
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Posted on 11/8/21 at 12:17 pm to
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The others surviving is believable (possible), but there is now way Beth survives that and then just walks out and starts smoking a cigarette. And even if she did, she'd be in the hospital longer than John having skin grafts and scars over her entire body not just a scratch on her face and burn marks on part of her back. She'd look completely disfigured.


The bunkhouse hands all survived. I can see them over taking the three or four militia, but not a single one was even wounded.
This post was edited on 11/8/21 at 12:20 pm
Posted by lsufball19
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Posted on 11/8/21 at 12:17 pm to
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I don't think this was discussed enough. Jamie was on the phone with him as Beth entered the office. This will definitely come back up again.

At that point, Jamie was trying to get a deal done to sell the ranch and Roarke was the money guy for Market Equities. Jamie was trying to back John into a corner at the meeting with the governor to force John to sell. I'm honestly not convinced Market Equities had anything to do with the hit on the family.
Posted by lsufball19
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Posted on 11/8/21 at 12:19 pm to
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The bunkhouse hands all survived. I can see them over taking them, but not a single one was even wounded.


Right, while improbable it's still possible. Beth walking out of that office building after a bomb as powerful as that went off 15 feet away from her is impossible. Her body should have been in pieces.
This post was edited on 11/8/21 at 12:20 pm
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 11/8/21 at 12:38 pm to
I think its has to be Jamie's dad given the killers all seemed to be white trash former inmate types
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Posted on 11/8/21 at 12:41 pm to
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I think its has to be Jamie's dad given the killers all seemed to be white trash former inmate types


I don’t think so. He’s a poor hillbilly welder. An attack like that would require a bunch of money. The militia isn’t going to do a major attack like that for free.
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Posted on 11/8/21 at 12:51 pm to
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The others surviving is believable (possible), but there is now way Beth survives that and then just walks out and starts smoking a cigarette. And even if she did, she'd be in the hospital longer than John having skin grafts and scars over her entire body not just a scratch on her face and burn marks on part of her back. She'd look completely disfigured.


When they first show her walking out, I was thinking it’s going to be like Gus from Breaking Bad.
Posted by GEAUX5
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Posted on 11/8/21 at 12:51 pm to
My opinion is it’s definitely not someone you’d think about … in the previews Rainwater was acting as if it was someone that would surprise John and be viewed as a traitor.

The Governor is a good theory .. wouldn’t having the Duttons out make her richer since the land could be sold? Could be wrong.

Jamie is way too easy and predictable to be the fall guy. They want you to think it’s him. And if it’s him, that’s just lazy writing.
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