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re: Wonder Woman is an Unwatchable Mess
Posted on 6/2/17 at 10:05 pm to Sentrius
Posted on 6/2/17 at 10:05 pm to Sentrius
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It was so lame I had to leave.
Congrats on being that moron everybody loves to laugh at.
That would be incumbent on me respecting ignorant people with no clue of what they are talking about - like you.
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Posted on 6/2/17 at 10:13 pm to WhiskeyPapa
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All the writing was right on the nose.
Does not match with:
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None of what was presented made any sense at all.
If it was all on the nose, without subtext, how did it not make sense?
Posted on 6/2/17 at 10:15 pm to Sentrius
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It was so lame I had to leave.
Congrats on being that moron everybody loves to laugh at.
There is only one way to fix this.
If you like movies, don't post again on this board until you have watched all or most of these movies:
Casablanca (the treatment for Casablanca was 212 pages long. )
Identify all seven subplots.
The Maltese Falcon
Body Heat
Gone With the wind
Gone with the wind is the best movie ever made.
Alien
Aliens
Terminator Judgment Day
The Abyss At least the opening sequence because it is brilliant.
James Cameron is a dick but he makes great movies.
The Wizard of Oz. The Wizard of Oz didn't make a profit until 1960. If you have to look up when it was released then frick you.
Posted on 6/2/17 at 10:18 pm to WhiskeyPapa
Holy shite bro. You are trying WAY too hard.
Posted on 6/2/17 at 10:19 pm to WhiskeyPapa
quote:
Casablanca (the treatment for Casablanca was 212 pages long. )
Identify all seven subplots.
The Maltese Falcon
Body Heat
Gone With the wind
Gone with the wind is the best movie ever made.
Alien
Aliens
Terminator Judgment Day
The Abyss At least the opening sequence because it is brilliant.
James Cameron is a dick but he makes great movies.
The Wizard of Oz. The Wizard of Oz didn't make a profit until 1960. If you have to look up when it was released then frick you.
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WhiskeyPapa
You have to be old as shite if you're posting movies that were made at least one generation ago and no recent ones.
Posted on 6/2/17 at 10:29 pm to lagallifrey
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None of what was presented made any sense at all.
If it was all on the nose, without subtext, how did it not make sense?
1. The characters spoke directly of what they were thinking, with no subtlety or subtext.
2. What they said was not reasonable or rational.
Two different issues.
At one point, Hippolita said to Diana - "that is all just a story it means nothing."
Diana then says, "I have to go help those poor people defeat Ares."
Which her mother had just told her was bullshite.
She gets on the boat with Steve Trevor. She asks about the war. Even though Trevor had just escaped death from the Turks and their allies the Germans - somewhere in the Aegean Sea, he says: "well, the Western front is really bad right now." (notice how that is exposition done right on the nose?) Even though he had just been talking about a female Turkish scientist working on dastardly wonder weapons right nearby.
This is one of the worst movie I have ever seen.
Posted on 6/2/17 at 10:35 pm to Sentrius
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WhiskeyPapa
You have to be old as shite if you're posting movies that were made at least one generation ago and no recent ones.
I am 61 YO.
Most of the movies made now suck. The audience can't tell good from bad because they have too little exposure to good material. A lot of CGI and explosions and they are like "Wow!"
Recent movies I like include Interstellar and Deep Water Horizon.
Pulp Fiction is a great movie as is Inglorious Basterds.
If you haven't watched enough good movies to sort out the good from the dreck, I don't accept responsibility.
Posted on 6/2/17 at 10:35 pm to WhiskeyPapa
quote]Wonder Woman is an Unwatchable Mess[/quote]
Is that you Stan Lee??? Jealousy does not become you!
Is that you Stan Lee??? Jealousy does not become you!
Posted on 6/2/17 at 10:38 pm to MSH
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Holy shite bro. You are trying WAY too hard.
Not at all. This is like first grade stuff to me.
Posted on 6/2/17 at 10:39 pm to LSUDonMCO
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Is that you Stan Lee??? Jealousy does not become you!
Stan Lee doesn't have to worry about this sorry mess.
Posted on 6/2/17 at 10:40 pm to WhiskeyPapa
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1. The characters spoke directly of what they were thinking, with no subtlety or subtext.
Yeah characters tend to say what they are thinking unless they are lying.
Here's what the film does fantastically: it's story about 2 outsiders from completely different environments, and thus them explaining their mindset to the other makes sense. They both have no context at all on how the other lives and what they know. So them explaining it to one another is a very organic way to catch up the audience to what is going on. It's just exposition in things that the characters should already know is what drives me crazy. This has none of it as far as I'm aware. Please give me one example.
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2. What they said was not reasonable or rational.
Well not all characters are reasonable or rational. Was Wonder Woman storming out of the trench this? No, but it was fricking great because she's idealist with a pure heart and ignorance on how the world works around her. I mean, shite, did you think Forrest Gump was a piece of shite just because he continually ran into the jungle to find Bubba?
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She gets on the boat with Steve Trevor. She asks about the war. Even though Trevor had just escaped death from the Turks and their allies the Germans - somewhere in the Aegean Sea, he says: "well, the Western front is really bad right now." (notice how that is exposition done right on the nose?) Even though he had just been talking about a female Turkish scientist working on dastardly wonder weapons right nearby.
She doesn't know anything about modern warfare, you stupid mother fricker. If an alien (which is what Steve Trevor was to her) with technology 4000 years from now landed in an interdimensional space craft warning us that about weapons we had never conceived of before, you would have a lot of fricking questions that 5 minutes couldn't suffice. She couldn't perceive mustard gas or a tank from how she had been raised. It had to be carefully explained to her. It's not because she's stupid, it's because she had no remote exposure to that sort of thing.
Posted on 6/2/17 at 10:42 pm to WhiskeyPapa
Much better done.
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Some of this exposition is on the nose too. You won't notice I guess.
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Some of this exposition is on the nose too. You won't notice I guess.
This post was edited on 6/2/17 at 10:47 pm
Posted on 6/2/17 at 10:43 pm to WhiskeyPapa
It was a terrific movie and you know it.
Posted on 6/2/17 at 10:51 pm to OMLandshark
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She doesn't know anything about modern warfare, you stupid mother fricker.
I can only guess that you thought this was a good movie.
Pow.
Posted on 6/2/17 at 10:52 pm to OliverQueen81
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It was a terrific movie and you know it.
Well, I don't know. The 30 minutes I saw was over the top ridiculous.
Posted on 6/2/17 at 10:54 pm to OMLandshark
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She doesn't know anything about modern warfare, you stupid mother fricker. If an alien (which is what Steve Trevor was to her) with technology 4000 years from now landed in an interdimensional space craft warning us that about weapons we had never conceived of before, you would have a lot of fricking questions that 5 minutes couldn't suffice.
Maybe so but he showed up in an Eindeker 3.
Posted on 6/2/17 at 10:57 pm to OliverQueen81
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It was a terrific movie and you know it.
It had terrific elements.
Great CGI technology, beautiful people, great fight scenes, lots of explosions.
My benchmark is the story. If you can't tell the story around a camp fire and people get it, the CGI and the cleavage doesn't matter.
Posted on 6/2/17 at 11:05 pm to OMLandshark
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Yeah characters tend to say what they are thinking unless they are lying.
People do. Characters in movies say things that exposit what the writer wants to portray to the audience.
This book is indispensable.
Joseph Campbell inspired George Lucas.
Who is on the cover? Luke Skywalker.
Have you ever seen "The Trojan Women" by Euripides?
Don't bother. It sucks.
Posted on 6/2/17 at 11:10 pm to WhiskeyPapa
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Maybe so but he showed up in an Eindeker 3.
How can a civilization 4000 years removed possibly know what that is? It's like saying "well he showed up with the internet." A person living in ancient Egypt wouldn't process it. My grandmother couldn't process the internet, nevertheless someone who had never seen any technology outside of the Bronze Age.
Posted on 6/2/17 at 11:11 pm to OMLandshark
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Well not all characters are reasonable or rational.
You seem to be suggesting that the purpose of screenwriting is to confuse people and obfuscate objectives.
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