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Wonder Woman is an Unwatchable Mess

Posted on 6/2/17 at 7:01 pm
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 6/2/17 at 7:01 pm
Sorry guys.

It was so lame I had to leave. All the writing was right on the nose. None of what was presented made any sense at all.

Unwatchable.
Posted by funnystuff
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Posted on 6/2/17 at 7:02 pm to
Not even a good troll
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 6/2/17 at 7:03 pm to
Put some fricking effort into it at least. Jesus Christ. fricking amateur hour here.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 6/2/17 at 7:03 pm to
GFY you cis heterocentrist POS
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 6/2/17 at 7:14 pm to
You're not very good at trolling. I will use your OP as an example of what not to do when other perspective trolls arrive on this board.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
42272 posts
Posted on 6/2/17 at 7:26 pm to
now this is how you troll the fanboys

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Director Patty Jenkins examines her subject less deeply than Snyder has done. Could Jenkins, director of Monster (2004), about psychotic serial killer Aileen Wuornos — one of the most repugnant and perversely “feminist” movies ever — fashion a viable superhero?

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This “She-ro” status might satisfy comic-book fans who found it difficult to accept the spiritual complexity of Snyder’s male superheroes, but that also makes Wonder Woman a superficial experience. As the origin story proceeds, Jenkins’s period-set action scenes slip into rip-offs of Captain America, Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, Hellboy, and Jonah Hex.

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Sorry, fanboys and fangirls, Wonder Woman needs to cohere with the way Snyder used comic-book fantasy to simultaneously elevate and deepen the complicated human drives of DC Comics characters. Unfortunately, Diana’s “god-killer” question lacks resonance and exposes contemporary faithlessness — unlike Snyder’s visionary films, derived from folkloric belief and Christian notions of sacrifice and redemption (which occasionally made Sucker Punch awesome, stirring pop art). Snyder’s mature perspective is traded for women-warrior scenes in Themyscira that replace 300-style sensual intensity with the near-camp of butt-kicking female toughness.

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Wonder Woman, however, is “feminist” in a petty, trendy way.

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But Jenkins’s Amazon warriors rappelling down cliffs and shooting arrows against German rifles lacks the daring, visual extravagance of Zhang Yimou’s The Great Wall. In all film history, Leni Riefenstahl and Kathryn Bigelow remain the only women to exhibit proficiency at kinetic filmmaking.

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too much of Wonder Woman is realistic in a conventional Marvel Comics way, without Snyder’s visual passion. Maybe it takes PC women and whipped men to split that difference, but it’s a real let-down to realize that neither Bruce Wayne nor Clark Kent will appear to spark things up. Or maybe some fans will simply enjoy banality.

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She’s both a lesser character and a lesser icon than Snyder’s Superman and Batman. Diana, like her introductory movie, has childlike enthusiasm but no passion.

This post was edited on 6/2/17 at 7:27 pm
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 6/2/17 at 7:38 pm to
Sorry guys. Time to drink now.

It was just as lame as Suicide Squad.
Posted by MSH
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Posted on 6/2/17 at 7:40 pm to
2 to 1 baw hadn't seen the movie.
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 6/2/17 at 7:40 pm to
I didn't want to do any spoilers. I wrote the first note right after I left at the first plot point.
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 6/2/17 at 7:42 pm to
And all of you can frick off if you didn't percieve that mess for the total dreck it was.
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 6/2/17 at 7:44 pm to
Sucker Punch was an unwatchable mess too.
Posted by airfernando
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 6/2/17 at 8:20 pm to
I could tell from the trailer.
Posted by montanagator
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 6/2/17 at 8:23 pm to
Goddamn- I mean if that's not trolling that's just wow.
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Snyder’s visionary films




Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Member since Nov 2010
108009 posts
Posted on 6/2/17 at 8:26 pm to
You didn't even do a good job laying the ground work for this drivel in the other WW thread. Turrible.
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 6/2/17 at 9:07 pm to
I did very much say that based on BvS and SS I didn't expect much from this movie.

And Wonder Woman if you didn't get the memo was an unwatchable mess.
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 6/2/17 at 9:09 pm to
The problem with a lot of people is that they have seen so little good material that dreck like WW looks good to them.
Posted by Run Ultra
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 6/2/17 at 9:13 pm to
Huh?
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 6/2/17 at 9:50 pm to
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Put some fricking effort into it at least. Jesus Christ. fricking amateur hour here.



Did you see this movie? It was dreadful. If you couldn't tell that I can see why you feel defensive.
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 6/2/17 at 10:02 pm to
I am guessing that all you stupid mofo's who down checked me have no idea what "On the nose" writing is. This movie was nothing but "on the nose" writing.

Writing on the Nose: what it is and why not to do it.

Posted on May 7, 2014 by Richard •

What is writing on the nose?



Writing on the nose is a screenwriting term that refers to dialogue or action in which the character’s innermost thoughts and feelings are fully expressed by what the character is saying or doing. There is no nuance, mystery, ambiguity or surprise (as there is in real life). The subtext has been written directly into the text.



What is subtext? It is everything that is not on the page. It is the unspoken dialogue and hidden thoughts found in the whitespace between the lines.



Because people often go to great lengths to hide what they are thinking, even subconsciously at times, on the nose writing feels unnatural and is neither compelling nor dramatic. Actors don’t want to act it, directors don’t want to direct it, and film editors will slice it out and let it fall to the floor. Likewise in the literary world. On the nose dialogue (and activity) robs characters of their complexity, bores readers, and signals “amateur” to editors and agents. To wit:



Sam knocked on the door, let himself in, crossed the room to one of two leather chairs and sat down. He looked across the desk to his boss. “Good morning. You wanted to see me?”

vs.

There was a knock on the door. Before Turnbull could answer, Sam walked in and sank into one of two leather chairs facing the desk. He ran his fingers through dark hair that had grown considerably since his ouster from Corporate America, then clasped his hands on top of his head. “The furrow in your brow, it’s as deep as anything on June’s face. What’s up?”



Which of these examples has nuance and mystery? Which has an inner life, something going on between the lines?



Here’s an example paraphrased from Robert McKee’s book Story: Substance, Structure, Style, and the Principles of Screenwriting:



He sits across from her at the candlelit table, the light glinting off the crystal wine glasses as soft breezes billow the curtains, and a Chopin nocturne plays in the background. He reaches across the table and takes her hand in his. She looks longingly into his eyes. He says, “I love you.” “And I love you,” she replies.



What’s wrong with this scene? It’s full of detail and ambience, and people do this in real life, don’t they? Yes, they do, but even then there are unspoken, and often unwanted, thoughts swirling in their heads. This scene lacks nuance, mystery, ambiguity, or surprise. It lacks an inner life, and if I’m the reader and this is how the bulk of the story is being told, I’ll quickly lose interest. On the other hand, if the scene is rewritten with subtext that offers subtle hints—a telling gesture, facial expression, or shift in posture—that say this guy has an agenda, now the scene is infused with drama, and I’m interested."

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Begging the question of course - why would ya'll take issue with something you can't even identify in a very very bad movie like "Wonder Woman"?

This post was edited on 6/2/17 at 10:03 pm
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 6/2/17 at 10:03 pm to
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It was so lame I had to leave.


Congrats on being that moron everybody loves to laugh at.
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