re: Wire fans, who do you pick: Avon or String? (Spoilers)

Yeah thats why I brought up Tony, but Tony >>>>> Stringer.

McNulty is the best part of the Wire, IMO, would have been interesting to see where Season 4 would have gone had Dominic West not requested time off for his family.

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The corners were irrelevant until the Towers(and they only gave up one Tower-no corners or The Pit) went down.

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they had product issues BEFORE this. that's why he gave up the areas in season 2 which led to the conflict with brother

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They were losing market share, yes, but Avon knew this was just temporary loss.

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the co op lasted past season 4 and basically through season 5. what makes you think they wouldn't have been completely run off?

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join the the co-op, something Avon was always against,

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joining the co op was the right move

avon sent brotha against stringer's wishes, which was stupid and fricked shite up

avon wanted to beef with marlow, which was stupid and fricked shite up

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the co-op made them second class citzens.

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they made more money. that's what matters

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Prop Joe held the real power there.

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they all had equal votes

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and the ended in a power struggle that Avon saw coming a mile away and even orchestrated some of it.

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it didn't end. it continued beyond the show

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Avon was the CEO,

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it was his mistake

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it was always his call

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he made the wrong one. stringer was right

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to keep his connect happy

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if he never sends brother, then the connect is never in danger of being offended

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Stringer's job was to carry out Avon's decisions.

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well then there is no discussion. what avon says goes and he can't be wrong. got it

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Avon knew that peace wouldn't last(among the co-op).

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it did last. even after marlow being a bitch

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String and his "ideals" led to all sorts of mistakes

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none as big as sending brother or going after marlow for no reason. those both destroyed the organization

stringer improved where they were prior to avon going to jail, and avon, quickly, destroyed everything they had built

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Toruting Brandon,instigating a war with Omar?- dumb move

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Appearing in Court, baiting McNulty- dumb move

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avon was in charge for both of these

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Killing D?-dumb move

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it was the right move, but it was completely fricked up.

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Attacking Muzone, severing ties with New York- dumb move

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this falls on avon for sending him

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Going into the co-op effectively making Prop Joe the top dog?-dumb move

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minimize the threat of getting caught and make more money? sounds like the right move

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Attempting to go after Clay Davis?-dumb move

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very. but in the end, harmless

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they made more money. that's what matters

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temporaily. Avon had the towers for YEARS. Market share is more important than one years profit. Again, I don't expect you to comprehend what was established off camera.

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they all had equal votes

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Where they received all information on pricing, shipments from Prop Joe, which is later illustrated with the Joe/Marlo dynamic. If you think Joe wasn't making the most money there and increasing his market share in West Balitmore, while increasing his dominace on the East side you fail to understand this show. Joe was much smarter and a superior businessman than Stringer- he pulled a Dwayne Wade-convincing his biggest competiton join forces with him. He effectively played Stringer into giving up Avon's real estate-which was always the most important resoucre in this economy. Ironic sense Stringer was so focused on real estate in his white collar life.

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and the ended in a power struggle that Avon saw coming a mile away and even orchestrated some of it

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it didn't end. it continued beyond the show

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No it didn't continue in it's original format and you are still ignoring the fact that the co-op like this will always open themselves to violence as long as the Supplier does not deal with the all parties involved-which they are too cautious to do.

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he made the wrong one. stringer was right

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Since you fail to realize that keeping the New York connect open was the smart play, you really don't understand this show. Stringer was wrong and his demise proves that he was. Every decision he made led to that.

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if he never sends brother, then the connect is never in danger of being offended

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again, you are missing the point. No matter what the Barksdale crew was starving for muscle. New York sent Muzone as favor, and a gesture of good will to the Barksdale crew, in essence opening the line of business again. If Stringer had been paitent, the heat on his boss's organization would have cooled and New York would have opened up business with them again. It was simply an ego move by Stringer.

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what avon says goes and he can't be wrong. got it

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I'm going to refer to the show here and explain to you like Dee explains it to Bodie and Wallace

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Now, the king, he move one space any direction he damn choose, 'cause he's the king. Like this, this, this, a'ight? But he ain't got no hustle. But the rest of these motherfrickers on the team, they got his back. And they run so deep, he really ain't gotta do shite.

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Like your uncle. D'Angelo Barksdale: Yeah, like my uncle. You see this? This the queen. She smart, she fast. She move any way she want, as far as she want. And she is the go-get-shite-done piece. Wallace: Remind me of Stringer. D'Angelo Barksdale: And this over here is the castle. Like the stash. It can move like this, and like this. Wallace: Dog, stash don't move, man. D'Angelo Barksdale: C'mon, yo, think. How many time we move the stash house this week? Right? And every time we move the stash, we gotta move a little muscle with it, right? To protect it. Preston 'Bodie' Broadus: True, true, you right. All right, what about them little baldheaded bitches right there? D'Angelo Barksdale: These right here, these are the pawns. They like the soldiers. They move like this, one space forward only. Except when they fight, then it's like this. And they like the front lines, they be out in the field. Wallace: So how do you get to be the king? D'Angelo Barksdale: It ain't like that. See, the king stay the king, a'ight?

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avon was in charge for both of these

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Avon didn't bait McNulty(if you think Avon wanted even to frick with the police, then you need to watch season 1 again) Avon wasn't there to instruct toture on Brandon, Stringer was with WeeBay before hand.He even told Omar about the intmate details of the torturing.

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Killing D?-dumb move
it was the right move, but it was completely fricked up.

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He killed Dee because he didn't like him. It was implied that Dee thought about stepping away from the organization, but in the end he never did. It was a pre-emptive strike and the wrong one, D'Angelo was more of an asset than Stringer was willing to admit and less of one the Avon was willing to admit. The truth is that Dee was always a threat to Stringer in the long run as sucessor to Avon, Stringer never liked Dee and that's why he killed him.

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very. but in the end, harmless

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Only the straw that broke the camels back in his relationship with his boss.

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RonBurgundy

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Just finished season 3 again tonight. The scene where Maurice Levy is explaining to String how he got played by Davis says a lot.

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I look at you these days, String, you know what I see? I see a man without a country. Not hard enough for this right here and maybe, just maybe, not smart enough for them out there.

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just finished season one. i'm going with string

Yall are missing the true genius of the show..... Bubbles played all them fools!