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re: Wire fans, who do you pick: Avon or String? (Spoilers)

Posted on 12/7/11 at 8:10 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/7/11 at 8:10 am to
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clay "sheeeeeet" davis mentions how he took stringer for a ride.

string wasn't the first. he won't be the last. his problem was not going through levy

and what's a few hundred k when you have a couple hundred mil in the bank?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/7/11 at 8:10 am to
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That one mistake in a non violent business ended up costing him his life

no

avon fricking shite up when he got back and selling him out is what cost him his life
Posted by RonBurgundy
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Posted on 12/7/11 at 8:31 am to
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o

avon fricking shite up when he got back and selling him out is what cost him his life


You need to watch the wire again, with someone who can comprehend what is happening on the screen.
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 12/7/11 at 8:35 am to
Stringer was fricked no matter what. Weather it had been BPD or Omar.
Posted by Towelie
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Posted on 12/7/11 at 9:12 am to
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avon fricking shite up when he got back



Avon put that shite together in the first place.
Stringer fricked himself up with that "share the corner" bullshite.
I'll take Avon.
"Just a gangster I suppose"
Posted by Pectus
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Posted on 12/7/11 at 9:46 am to
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It doesn't matter how you try to play it...the game plays you.



This.


There's always a bigger fish, or a little fish trying to get bigger.
Posted by Baloo
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Posted on 12/7/11 at 10:57 am to
String. Avon had no vision. String's share the corner was working until Avon started agitating, giving Marlo an opening to screw the whole thing up.

That said, it is the ultimate irony Marlo got what Stringer always wanted, but for him that was hell, and he had to go back to the street. My name is my name. String don't care about that BS.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/7/11 at 7:09 pm to
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String's share the corner was working until Avon started agitating, giving Marlo an opening to screw the whole thing up.

exactly. things were humming along fine until avon got out

string could have set it up where they made twice the money with half the name for avon, and avon would have still been upset. avon's priorities were more in line with marlow's (street shite)

now, did string frick up with the real estate? yes. but that was was nothing in terms of the total pie. if the numbers from season 1 are accurate, they had hundreds of millions of dollars saved up. a few hundred grand was nothing



Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/7/11 at 7:10 pm to
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Stringer fricked himself up with that "share the corner" bullshite.

how?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/7/11 at 7:11 pm to
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You need to watch the wire again, with someone who can comprehend what is happening on the screen.

how did avon NOT frick things up when he got out?
Posted by Josh Fenderman
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Posted on 12/7/11 at 7:42 pm to
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GREATNESS

God damn. If I could go back and watch this show for the first time again... I need to do it over for the hell of it anyway.
Posted by BlacknGold
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Posted on 12/7/11 at 8:01 pm to
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how did avon NOT frick things up when he got out?


you realize thats not why he died right?

string fricked over too many people and played too many angles. he tried to kill brother mouzone and went to hard at omar. all strings fault.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/7/11 at 8:21 pm to
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string fricked over too many people and played too many angles. he tried to kill brother mouzone and went to hard at omar.

and avon didn't go hard at omar?

the only way brother got string's location was via avon
Posted by Josh Fenderman
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Posted on 2/18/12 at 11:28 am to
I'm on my second watch and nearing the end of season 3.

Avon, no doubt.

Like many said, String only thought he was a badass with his Baltimore Community College education. He also fricked up calling the D situation and his dumbass called the hit on Omar on a Sunday morning and didn't hit anything but his grandmama's crown.
Posted by efa
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Posted on 2/18/12 at 11:23 pm to
I think they are both great, I can't decide.
Business was good until Marlo tried taking them over, I think if they would have killed Marlo, Stringer would have become a successful business owner while Avon owned all the corners.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/19/12 at 1:41 am to
they wouldn't have owned the corners without prop joes connect, and to get that connect they had to give up corners
Posted by RonBurgundy
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Posted on 2/19/12 at 2:42 am to
Without question this answer is Avon. When string made the call on Brandon was what fricked up the Barksdale crew. Before that no one had even seen Avon, strigner was sitting in courtrooms like a dumbass. Why most viewers fail to recognize this is because we jump into the story with Avon already at the top, a guy so paranoid he wouldn't use the same phone twice a d wouldn't allow his crew to talk business in the car. Avon was the true genius, Stringer although smart made a lot of decisions with emotion. Dee, Brandon, Muzone/Omar, attempting to kill Clay eDavis, berating his crew. Avon would never make those moves/ act that way. Avon was smart enough to know that the co-op wouldn't last, which is why he wanted real estate. New York wanted to re establish the connect, but since Muzone got double crossed by Stringer he had to go. Stringer is the perfect example of someone making decisions when the best move is to wait.



This post was edited on 2/19/12 at 5:12 pm
Posted by RonBurgundy
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Posted on 2/19/12 at 5:42 pm to
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they wouldn't have owned the corners without prop joes connect, and to get that connect they had to give up corners




The corners were irrelevant until the Towers(and they only gave up one Tower-no corners or The Pit) went down. Stringer failed to recognized that a) the Towers were coming down(How does a real estate investor not become aware of that?) getting out on the corners earlier would have squashed the Stanfield crew's power b) committing to the co-op crippled his own market share, with Prop Joe gaining real estate and direct connection to the Greeks. c) attempting to bring Marlo into the co-op was a mistake.

This post was edited on 2/19/12 at 6:14 pm
Posted by Marciano1
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Posted on 2/19/12 at 6:07 pm to
Stringer Bell was the best character on the show imo. The only character I've ever enjoyed more was Ryan O'Reily on Oz.
Posted by RonBurgundy
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Posted on 2/19/12 at 6:11 pm to
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The only character I've ever enjoyed more was Ryan O'Reily on Oz.


what about Tony?
Walter White?
Omar?
McNulty?
Nucky?


Bell was a great character no question, huge fan of Idris Elba. IMO, Avon is the most underrated character in the Wire. Would love to see a graphic novel telling the rise of the Barksdale Crew.
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