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re: Where does Lion King rank on the top animation list?
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:18 pm to Muthsera
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:18 pm to Muthsera
quote:
#1 Aladdin (best setting + peak Robin Williams)
#2 Beauty and the Beast (best songs, 2nd best setting, 2nd best villain)
#3 Lion King (best villain)
#4 101 Dalmations (major soft spot now that its my daughter's favorite - it's funny as shite and the distinctive animation makes it feel less dated
I’d be inclined to agree with this except I’m partial to A Whole New World as best song.
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:29 pm to Woolfman_8
They nailed it on pretty much every movie of the renaissance era, for me it goes
Lion King
Beauty & The Beast
Aladdin
Hunchback, Pocahontas, Mulan, Little Mermaid, Hercules
ETA: All time, top 5-10
Lion King
Beauty & The Beast
Aladdin
Hunchback, Pocahontas, Mulan, Little Mermaid, Hercules
ETA: All time, top 5-10
This post was edited on 5/7/20 at 10:29 pm
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:50 pm to Muthsera
quote:
"Can You Feel the Love Tonight?" is one of the single most overrated Disney songs,
Is CYFTLT really that highly thought of?
There are several other more highly regarded songs in that movie (Circle of Life, I Just Can't Wait to Be King, Hakuna Matata).
Posted on 5/7/20 at 11:13 pm to TigerLunatik
quote:This is the objective truth.
Lion King is my #1 by far.
Everyone knows it.
But because of this, it has become "cool" to rank random, and far less worthy, movies ahead of it.
This post was edited on 5/7/20 at 11:15 pm
Posted on 5/7/20 at 11:16 pm to Freauxzen
For animation alone, that Final Fantasy movie would be #1
by alot
by alot
Posted on 5/7/20 at 11:22 pm to Roaad
quote:
This is the objective truth.
Everyone knows it.
Only to the ignorant. The animation tournament a few months was the biggest joke in the history of this board. Princess Mononoke, debatably the greatest animated film ever made, lost to Disney bottom feeder The Sword in the Stone.
The Lion King is badass, but it’s not a masterpiece. Simba and Nala suck as characters and Scar loses his teeth in the second half of the movie. Still a great film, but not in the debate for the best.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 11:31 pm to OMLandshark
quote:Simba was great. His personal tragedy and growth carried the emotional weight of the entire film.
Simba and Nala suck as characters
quote:Because, like most conquerers, when the land is won, you have to rule with actions. . .and not platitudes.
Scar loses his teeth in the second half of the movie
He was a shite ruler, so he ruled a kingdom that wanted him dead. He was de-fanged by paranoia.
quote:Is good, but VASTLY overrated
Princess Mononoke
Posted on 5/7/20 at 11:36 pm to Roaad
quote:
Simba was great. His personal tragedy and growth carried the emotional weight of the entire film.
What happens to Simba is interesting. Simba himself is not. What people embody onto Simba they’re thinking of Mufasa, the interesting character. The conflict is really Mufasa vs Scar, not Simba vs Scar. Simba is merely the proxy to make that happen.
quote:
Because, like most conquerers, when the land is won, you have to rule with actions. . .and not platitudes.
He was a shite ruler, so he ruled a kingdom that wanted him dead. He was de-fanged by paranoia.
I don’t fault the film too much for this... but he’s so much better in the first half of the movie. I highly fault it for Simba and Nala not being interesting.
quote:
Is good, but VASTLY overrated
I don’t think there’s a wasted line in that movie and it’s 2 and a half hours long. In my Top 10 all time in general.
But if you’ve even seen that movie, you’d have to agree it’s better than “The Sword and the Stone”, right?
This post was edited on 5/7/20 at 11:37 pm
Posted on 5/8/20 at 9:54 am to Woolfman_8
if youre talking disney strictly id say probably the best. animated movies in general, naw. mid-tier
Posted on 5/8/20 at 10:22 am to Woolfman_8
It’s tough for me to rank Disney movies because of the nostalgia factor but:
1. Aladdin
2. Lion King
3. Mulan
4. Hercules
5. Fox and the Hound (one of the first movies I remember watching)
1. Aladdin
2. Lion King
3. Mulan
4. Hercules
5. Fox and the Hound (one of the first movies I remember watching)
Posted on 5/8/20 at 10:23 am to LouisianaLonghorn
quote:i think that had a lot to do with the actors. The push to have fill most all major characters with black actors unstead of the best actors really hurt it. I mean there were 2 distinctive voices which mad the original. JEJ in Mufassa and Irons as Scar. it was fantastic they got JEJ to come back and a huge travesty that Irons wasnt invited to reprise his role. BUT this point has been made many times.
The remake was beautiful to look at, but completely without soul.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 10:27 am to OMLandshark
quote:because it is retarded and just you being you to be edgy.
Yeah this may not be popular,
quote:none of these are in the top 3-5 Disney movies. The lion King is.
Disney
Pinocchio
Sleeping Beauty
Beauty and the Beast
The Hunchback of Notre Dame
Tangled
Wreck-It Ralph
quote:the ony 3 that rival TLK.
Pixar
Toy Story 1-3
The Incredibles
Ratatouille
WALL-E
Up
Inside Out
Coco
quote:lolwut?
Ghibli
Naussica of the Valley of the Wind
Castle in the Sky
Grave of the Fireflies
Kiki’s Delivery Service
Princess Mononoke
Spirited Away
Howl’s Moving Castle
Laika
Coraline
Kubo and the Two Strings
Dreamworks
The Prince of Egypt
Chicken Run
How to Train Your Dragon
Warner Bros
The Iron Giant
The LEGO Movie
Batman: Mask of the Phantasm
Random
Akira
The Breadwinner
Isle of Dogs
The Fantastic Mr Fox
The Secret of NIMH
Spider-Man Into the Spiderverse
The Nightmare Before Christmas
Your Name
This post was edited on 5/8/20 at 10:28 am
Posted on 5/8/20 at 10:35 am to OMLandshark
quote:you are a fricking clown.
Only to the ignorant. The animation tournament a few months was the biggest joke in the history of this board. Princess Mononoke, debatably the greatest animated film ever made, lost to Disney bottom feeder The Sword in the Stone.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 10:36 am to Roaad
quote:
This is the objective truth.
Everyone knows it.
But because of this, it has become "cool" to rank random, and far less worthy, movies ahead of it.
Or maybe nostalghia is wearing thin for people who saw it when it came out, and kids who see it now realize it isn't the greatest animated film of all time.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 10:37 am to Roaad
quote:
For animation alone, that Final Fantasy movie would be #1
by alot
I left off all pure CGI, that's a different discussion.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 10:39 am to Roaad
quote:quote:
Simba and Nala suck as characters
Simba was great. His personal tragedy and growth carried the emotional weight of the entire film.
Simba is one of the worst of Disney "heroes."
And there's also this:
Yeah the stories aren't necessarily similar, but there are a lot of coincidences and some shot for shot rip offs. That certainly also knocks it off the pedestal.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 11:14 am to CarRamrod
quote:
because it is retarded and just you being you to be edgy.
quote:
none of these are in the top 3-5 Disney movies. The lion King is
Dude, you're the only one here being an opinion douche. It's conceivable that people who don't really care for bifurcated structure, sappy Elton John songs, or both animated sequences and and plots that are lifted wholesale from contemporary and classic works might not love Lion King as much as you do.
I accept that much of my love comes from childhood nostalgia. I know this because I saw the new version, which is close to a shot-for-shot remake, and it sucked. Is Matthew Broderick really that much better an animated voice performer than Donald Glover? I doubt it.
Everyone who disagrees with you is not being edgy. Some of them are probably just wired differently than you. And thank God for that. We wouldn't want everyone yelling at people for not sharing some of their more basic-arse opinions
And to Shark, I actually think Mononoke is one of Miyazaki's shaggier works, but it is light-years better than The Sword in the Stone.
This post was edited on 5/8/20 at 11:28 am
Posted on 5/8/20 at 11:18 am to Woolfman_8
It has been at the top for me since it came out.
Now that I have kids it was bumped to #2.
1. Moana
2. The Lion King.
Now that I have kids it was bumped to #2.
1. Moana
2. The Lion King.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 11:19 am to Jay Are
quote:
I accept that much of my love comes from childhood nostalgia. I know this because I saw the new version, which is close to a shot-for-shot remake, and it sucked. Is Matthew Broderick really that much better an animated voice performer than Donald Glover? I doubt it. I think
This is actually a solid point. Take away the nostalgia, do a shot for shot remake and the story and characters don't really come through. It's not as universal a tale as we may have thought.
Posted on 5/8/20 at 11:28 am to Jay Are
quote:
Dude, you're the only one here being an opinion douche. It's conceivable that people who don't really care for bifurcated structure,
ok Karen. quote:
Everyone who disagrees with you is not being edgy.
it isnt disagreeing with me that makes it edgy. it is disagreeing with everyone that is. This is a trait that come out in snobs from all different topics, whether it is coffee snobs, or foodie snobs, or beer snobs, or this animated film snobs. quote:and you are calling me a douche, Karen?
And thank God for that. We wouldn't want everyone yelling at people for not sharing some of their more basic-arse opinions
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