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Where did the tv/movie trope of hiccuping when drunk come from?

Posted on 6/16/20 at 10:21 pm
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 10:21 pm
It happens in cartoons and older movies.

We have all seen Jerry Mouse drunk and hiccuping.

Bugs Bunny, Elmer Fudd, etc., as well.

Older movies have the same “trope” as well.

Where did this non-realistic idea come from?

Also, what is the oldest movie or show that you can think of where the actor/character did this?
This post was edited on 6/16/20 at 10:22 pm
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 10:33 pm to
It was done in The Philadelphia Story (1940). Jimmy Stewart is drunk and talking to Cary Grant.

Stewart claimed that during the scene he ad libbed a hiccup. And Grant immediately ad libbed right back, "Excuse me".

Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 10:34 pm to
Off the top of my head W.C. Fields?
Posted by CockHolliday
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 10:41 pm to
Vivien Leigh did it in Gone With the Wind (1939)
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 10:47 pm to
I was thinking maybe it started in the silent movie era, but I can’t think of anything in particular.
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 10:47 pm to
quote:

Off the top of my head W.C. Fields?

With Stewart improvising it I presume it was already a cliche by 1940, but I can't think of an earlier example OTTOMH

I haven't watched WCF in quite some time. He often played drinking characters, but how often did he actually play drunk?
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 10:51 pm to
quote:

I was thinking maybe it started in the silent movie era
I'm sure it did, and in vaudeville before that, but I can't think of anything specific

Here is another example from 1940

I know of a silent comedy that deals w/ getting rid of hiccups, but I don't think it involves drinking
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 10:57 pm to
Ummm, because you tend to hiccup while drunk. I know you’re not a drinker, but when you get shithoused hiccuping isn’t uncommon and you get pissed off about it.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 6/17/20 at 12:53 am to
I think you were correct with naming cartoons.

The internet seems to think it started with Porky Pig in the 30s.
Posted by TheTideMustRoll
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 6/17/20 at 1:23 am to
I don't want to go too far off the deep end here, but I'm going to guess it probably came from the fact that you sometimes get the hiccups when drunk.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 6/17/20 at 1:59 am to
Well yeah, but when did it first occur on the screen?

It's not like most people hiccup when drunk but that became the go to sign that a person was drunk in a movie.

Just like most people don't buy a French Banquette everytime they go the food market but that bageuutte sticking out the brown bag alerts the audience the person in the movie just went shopping.

A hiccup became a cheap and easy way to convey to the audience that the character was inebriated without showing reels of him or drinking.

And it probably did start with cartoons because they had to convey things quickly.
This post was edited on 6/17/20 at 2:16 am
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 6/17/20 at 7:08 am to
It was probably W.C. Fields.
Posted by oogabooga68
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Posted on 6/17/20 at 7:33 am to
He wasn't the first, but Foster Brooks was the best at it.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
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Posted on 6/17/20 at 7:39 am to
I’ve definitely gotten the beer drunk hiccups quite a few times.

ETA:

Mine is acid reflux related. Carbonation doesn’t help either, but mainly acid reflux.
This post was edited on 6/17/20 at 7:41 am
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:05 am to
quote:

Ummm, because you tend to hiccup while drunk. I know you’re not a drinker, but when you get shithoused hiccuping isn’t uncommon and you get pissed off about it.
I am definitely a drinker and I can accurately state that I have never gotten drunk and started hiccuping.

You can get hiccups from drinking anything, but it doesn’t exactly correlate specifically with alcohol.
This post was edited on 6/17/20 at 9:09 am
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:12 am to
Sorry, for some reason I mistook you for Sentrius. I’d had some drinks as well.

quote:

You can get hiccups from drinking anything, but it doesn’t exactly correlate specifically with alcohol


The only time I really get hiccups is when I’m drunk. Not sure if I’ve had sober hiccups since high school.
This post was edited on 6/17/20 at 9:14 am
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 6/17/20 at 9:22 am to
Think about Fields almost every day because I get a lot of Chickadees on my bird feeders. They are my favorite bird, because they are fearless. One was on a peanut butter cake at the same time a woodpecker was on the other side yesterday. Most of the other larger birds wouldn't be near a woodpecker.
Posted by illuminatic
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Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:02 am to
My wife hiccups like a cartoon mouse that fell in a barrel of booze, but only when she drinks wine. Nothing else makes her do that.
Posted by bengalbait
Grove Lounge
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Posted on 6/17/20 at 10:59 am to
Some doctors believe that hiccups are related to brain chemistry, There's the possibility that alcohol may "fire off a tripwire" that effects the vagus nerve, which connects the brain to various organs, including the diaphragm.
Posted by BoogerNuts
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Posted on 6/17/20 at 3:24 pm to
If you drink or eat too fast, you can get the hiccups. Oddly enough, the best way to get rid of them is to drink something fast.
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