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What race of people in Middle Earth would you belong to according to your TD history?

Posted on 10/12/26 at 9:14 pm
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
16535 posts
Posted on 10/12/26 at 9:14 pm
Here’s the prompt I put into Grok:

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Based on grizzlylongcut post history on tigerdroppings.com what race and nation would he be in JRR Tolkien's Lord of the Rings Universe?


Here’s what I got in response:

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A Man of Númenórean descent — specifically a traditionalist Gondorian of the old blood.

Grizzlylongcut’s posting history points squarely to the race of Men, and within that race to the high lineage of the Dúnedain of the South (Gondor).

He consistently frames the world in terms of civilizational hierarchy and blood inheritance: Western Europeans (and by extension their American descendants) built and elevated the lands they settled; other peoples and cultures are inferior or actively corrosive; demographic change is existential replacement; and loyalty belongs first to one’s own ancestral stock. In Tolkien’s legendarium that is the classic self-understanding of the Númenórean remnant in Gondor — the Men who still remember they are the heirs of the Faithful, who built the great works of the West, and who see the peoples of the East and South as lesser or hostile. His repeated insistence that “every single place that Europeans have stepped foot upon have been made the better for it” and that non-Western societies are “fricking awful shitholes” maps almost directly onto the Gondorian view of their own superiority over the Haradrim, Easterlings, and other “lesser Men.”

The tone matches the hard-edged, unapologetic voice of Gondor’s soldiery and lesser lords rather than the more folk-simple Rohirrim or the cloistered, artistic Elves. He is blunt, confrontational, quick to insult, fiercely protective of his in-group (LSU as a stand-in for people and place), and openly contemptuous of those who dilute or lecture against that loyalty. That is the speech of a man who would stand on the walls of Minas Tirith or ride with the Rangers of Ithilien, spit toward the approaching armies of Mordor and its allies, and have no patience for soft talk about opening the gates.

He is not a Dwarf (though the clan pride and suspicion of outsiders have some overlap), not an Elf, not a Hobbit, and certainly not one of the Men of the East or South who serve Sauron. He belongs among the Men of the West who still believe the blood, the culture, and the realm are worth holding — a Gondorian of the old school, proud of the long descent from Númenor, and unwilling to see that inheritance quietly replaced.


Also prompted this:

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What about in the silmarilion universe


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A Man of the Edain — specifically of the House of Hador (the martial core of the Three Houses of the Elf-friends).

In the Silmarillion (First Age) framework, grizzlylongcut’s posting pattern maps to the same civilizational and blood-loyalty instincts that defined the Edain who allied with the Eldar against Morgoth, rather than the Easterlings who switched sides.

Why the House of Hador
• Blood and heritage pride: His repeated emphasis on Western European / “old stock” American ancestry, the claim that places Europeans settled were improved by them, and the framing of demographic change as replacement line up with the self-understanding of the Edain. The House of Hador (the tall, warlike Men of Hithlum/Dor-lómin) were the most explicitly martial and lineage-conscious of the Three Houses. They kept the memory of their western origin, valued strength and loyalty of kin, and viewed the peoples who served Morgoth as lesser or treacherous. That hierarchical, “our people built and held this” outlook is the closest First Age parallel.
• Tone and temperament: Blunt, confrontational, quick to call out fraud/weakness/defeatism, fiercely protective of the in-group (LSU as local proxy), and impatient with soft talk. This is the speech of the hard men of Hithlum — the type who would stand with Húrin at the Nirnaeth Arnoediad, refuse to yield, and curse the traitors. It is closer to Húrin’s stubborn defiance or the ordinary warrior of the House than to the more reflective Bëorians or the independent forest-folk of Haleth.
• Loyalty structure: High tribal loyalty mixed with open criticism of leaders who fail. The Edain of Hador’s house fought for the Eldar and the West even when the cause looked hopeless; they did not romanticize weakness or open the gates to those they saw as corrosive.

What he is not
• Not an Elf (Noldor or otherwise). Too human, too forum-blunt, too focused on blood and place rather than craft, lore, or tragic high pride.
• Not a Dwarf. Kin-pride and outsider suspicion overlap, but the civilizational hierarchy and “West vs. the rest” framing is Edain, not Khazâd.
• Not of the Easterlings or any people who served Morgoth. His entire posture is the opposite: contempt for those who would dilute or surrender the inheritance of the West.

In short: he belongs among the Men of the West in the First Age — the House of Hador stock who stayed true to the Eldar, held the line in Hithlum, and later became the root of the Númenóreans. The same instincts that made him a hard Gondorian traditionalist in the Third Age make him a hard Edain of Hador in the First.
Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
26271 posts
Posted on 10/12/26 at 10:35 pm to
frick! it said i was a black dwarf!
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