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Posted on 12/12/11 at 9:03 am to Sophandros
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With the exception of your last line (which sane posters understand is tongue in cheek--I hope...), that's not very controversial.
yeah, I suppose you're right. I just wanted to bunker down by acknowledging that putting silver lining on slavery was somewhat of a PC powderkeg (which was then severely undercut by that last line
pretty much every major genre of music was sprung from african americans, even significant amounts of country and western music, though music cultures like irish balladeering also helped build it up.
Posted on 12/12/11 at 9:04 am to Leauxgan
Slave songs turned into blues which turned into basically every kind of music until electronic genres came about.
Posted on 12/12/11 at 9:06 am to Pectus
quote:the invention of the radio?
What is the greatest thing to ever happen to music?
Posted on 12/12/11 at 9:07 am to Leauxgan
quote:This is correct. While most people want to attribute it to Cowboy ballads in the late 19th century, it is about 50/50 with spirituals and blues.
even significant amounts of country and western music
Posted on 12/12/11 at 9:08 am to Flair Chops
quote:Hmmm. That's a good one.
the invention of the radio?
Posted on 12/12/11 at 9:17 am to Pectus
quote:
What is the greatest thing to ever happen to music?
Whoever compressed a song into 2:30-4:00 single pieces, instead of longer orchestral-styled arrangements.
Posted on 12/12/11 at 9:26 am to Freauxzen
The record.
Before records, music had to be experienced live. Even radio would have to bring in musicians live to play. But with the record, one performance could live forever, which completely changed how we experience music. All of modern music is influenced by the fact that we record it. Even live shows, which I love, are a way to hock the recording.
The electric guitar was my second answer.
I cannot believe someone upthread seriously argued that the Rolling Stones weren't influential. I mean, other than creating the template for a blues-based rock band, what the hell did they do? I'd argue the Stones are the MOST influential rock band (the Beatles are the most influential pop band -- the Beatles' influence is moving away from "pure" rock which is why it's so ridiculous for people to complain about rap or disco --- rock was "corrupted a long time ago, and it was by your heroes). But the Stones are the definitive rock band
Before records, music had to be experienced live. Even radio would have to bring in musicians live to play. But with the record, one performance could live forever, which completely changed how we experience music. All of modern music is influenced by the fact that we record it. Even live shows, which I love, are a way to hock the recording.
The electric guitar was my second answer.
I cannot believe someone upthread seriously argued that the Rolling Stones weren't influential. I mean, other than creating the template for a blues-based rock band, what the hell did they do? I'd argue the Stones are the MOST influential rock band (the Beatles are the most influential pop band -- the Beatles' influence is moving away from "pure" rock which is why it's so ridiculous for people to complain about rap or disco --- rock was "corrupted a long time ago, and it was by your heroes). But the Stones are the definitive rock band
Posted on 12/12/11 at 9:50 am to Brettesaurus Rex
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Worst thing to happen to music was the dawn of the single instead of the album.
The single has always been around. Before the album.
Posted on 12/12/11 at 9:54 am to Marciano1
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the rolling stones
I don't get the love for these guys. The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, and Pink Floyd were far more important to music than the Stones.
Baloo covered it but The Beatles were pop, Led Zeppelin are plagiarists, and Pink Floyd however good they are, aren't anything close to the Stones.
But I guess we're all just throwing out opinions though.
Posted on 12/12/11 at 9:58 am to Pectus
My two cents: Auto tune has revolutionized music. Plain and simple.
Ok maybe not. Has actually ruined certain genre's for me for the moment.
Going to read the entire thread here in a minute but... I think it was Baloo that said it in a thread one time but as far as "changing" music; nothing has done more than iTunes. I completely agree. Anybody and everybody can get there stuff out there now, and to a huge audience. Used to you had to work really hard to be good enough to get your album on a stores shelf. Now you do an iTunes search for "I Can Eat Ten Crackers In One Minute" and a band probably matches your search. I think satellite radio has added a lot to music too. You don't have seven stations to listen to anymore, you have seven for every genre that you like. A band or artist gets on iTunes, gets some following, gets on satellite radio and they take off. I used to love riding around having a huge binders full of cd's. Now it's like "wth dude get this thing out of the way." I kind of miss cd's. But that's where we are now, you don't read books to write a paper you search google and you don't go to the record store to by cd's, you go to iTunes.
Ok maybe not. Has actually ruined certain genre's for me for the moment.
Going to read the entire thread here in a minute but... I think it was Baloo that said it in a thread one time but as far as "changing" music; nothing has done more than iTunes. I completely agree. Anybody and everybody can get there stuff out there now, and to a huge audience. Used to you had to work really hard to be good enough to get your album on a stores shelf. Now you do an iTunes search for "I Can Eat Ten Crackers In One Minute" and a band probably matches your search. I think satellite radio has added a lot to music too. You don't have seven stations to listen to anymore, you have seven for every genre that you like. A band or artist gets on iTunes, gets some following, gets on satellite radio and they take off. I used to love riding around having a huge binders full of cd's. Now it's like "wth dude get this thing out of the way." I kind of miss cd's. But that's where we are now, you don't read books to write a paper you search google and you don't go to the record store to by cd's, you go to iTunes.
Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:01 am to iwyLSUiwy
I still buy CD's. And transfer them immediately to my computer.
The mp3 and file sharing is amazing and has revolutionized music. But really, it's just a subset of recording in the first place, which is why I'm going with the record. The idea of recording is the germ of popular culture.
The mp3 and file sharing is amazing and has revolutionized music. But really, it's just a subset of recording in the first place, which is why I'm going with the record. The idea of recording is the germ of popular culture.
Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:04 am to Baloo
Yeah I was going more something of late than all time.
Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:08 am to Baloo
I still buy CD's too mainly b/c that's how I enjoy music. I only do this with certain artists though.
Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:10 am to Pectus
quote:
What is the greatest thing to ever happen to music?
The Beatles
Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:24 am to Cdawg
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The Beatles were pop, Led Zeppelin are plagiarists
Hol' up. I think RS are both of those things, though if you juxtapose them with seminal acts of the 60s and 70s, they seem less so.
RS absolutely just jumped on the burgeoning blues rock milieu. You can't tell me that Keith Richards, Bill Wyman, Mick Taylor etc. weren't just emulating their favorite music in the early 60s. When compared to LZ, who straight up stoles chunks of songs and put their credentials on them, yes, they seem original. But really most art is just clever disguise. If you look at parts of RS's career, it's just appropriation of genre du jour (see: their disco phase).
But they did the R&B/Rock thing really, really, really well. I think that they're also very much pop oriented. But the breadth of their catalog, with its multitudinous, excellent non-singles, gives them the appearance of being more refined than they really are.
I think a band like Led Zeppelin is a touch more influential than RS. Their albums, especially the later ones, explored new styles, textures, and concepts that seemed more organic than mimicry. though some of you may beg to differ just how original they were. But I do think they at least influenced more genres than RS did.
Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:34 am to Sophandros
What gave rap its legitimacy was white kids like me buying Straight Outta Compton and Tha Chronic.
Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:56 am to Leauxgan
The Rolling Stones > The Beatles
and the old white people on here not giving any credit to other genre of music besides rock is GOLD!! how is it in that bubble you live in?
and the old white people on here not giving any credit to other genre of music besides rock is GOLD!! how is it in that bubble you live in?
Posted on 12/12/11 at 10:57 am to Pectus
If it hasn't been mentioned, i think auto tuning is the worst thing to happen to music. They take someeone with little to no ability and make them a star with studio enhancements. Then they suck live.
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