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re: Westworld S1 E08: "Trace Decay"

Posted on 11/23/16 at 10:35 am to
Posted by PillPusher
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Posted on 11/23/16 at 10:35 am to
Am I the only person who kind of laughed out loud when Teddy got stabbed in the shoulder and went down like he took a slug to the chest?
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 11/23/16 at 10:40 am to
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Why does everyone think the hosts had to be clunky 30 years ago?


Well the MIB even said in this episode that when he first started coming to the park that he opened up a host he killed and inside was a machine and parts everywhere.

How many parts of metal flew everywhere when William and Dolores blew up the body filled with Nitroglycerin? Body parts flew everywhere, but not one piece of robotics.

He also said that before his experience with Maeve and her daughter he, "Never saw hosts as alive."

Would you say William's feelings about Dolores are that she isn't 'alive'?
Posted by Sgt_Lincoln_Osiris
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Posted on 11/23/16 at 10:42 am to
I enjoy listening to classical when studying and noticed Ford played a Debussy song to calm Maeve down.

I googled the song just now to find it to listen to and this article brought up a pretty awesome safeguard built into Ford's office; the piano player that automatically plays music when he enters.

"Reverie" by Claude Debussy
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 11/23/16 at 10:52 am to




Hmmmmmmm, I'm sure the writers think it's not big deal and makes perfect sense that MIB and William wear their holsters on opposite sides.
Posted by Hester Carries
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Posted on 11/23/16 at 10:54 am to
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Would you say William's feelings about Dolores are that she isn't 'alive'?



You cant really argue that Dolores isnt old though. We know she is first gen. Now maybe they rebuilt her. But shes definitely 1st gen. The show told us that.
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 11/23/16 at 10:58 am to
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You cant really argue that Dolores isnt old though. We know she is first gen. Now maybe they rebuilt her. But shes definitely 1st gen. The show told us that.


What? I never argued that. All I'm saying is that there is no way someone can infer from what we've seen thus far that William is completely aware and okay that he is falling for a robot. He sees her as more than AI. That's the point I'm trying to make and the MIB says he never saw hosts as 'alive' until the incident a year before where he is in the show when he attacked Maeve.
Posted by Hester Carries
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Posted on 11/23/16 at 11:06 am to
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What? I never argued that. All I'm saying is that there is no way someone can infer from what we've seen thus far that William is completely aware and okay that he is falling for a robot. He sees her as more than AI. That's the point I'm trying to make and the MIB says he never saw hosts as 'alive' until the incident a year before where he is in the show when he attacked Maeve.


I agree that it supports William is not MIB.

however, William is aware that he is in love with a robot. He is just a pathetic cuck bitch that i cant wait to die gruesomely lol.
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 11/23/16 at 11:07 am to
Yeah, I mean there are things to support every theory right now and I'm sure that's what was intended.

We can't eliminate anything really at this point.
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 11/23/16 at 11:23 am to
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He is just a pathetic cuck bitch that i cant wait to die gruesomely lol.


I don't think you understand what a cuck is.
Posted by Hester Carries
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Posted on 11/23/16 at 11:24 am to
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We can't eliminate anything really at this point.



The only reason you cant eliminate anything is due to the possibility of lazy writing. If the writing is consistent you can eliminate a ton.
Posted by Hester Carries
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Posted on 11/23/16 at 11:25 am to
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I don't think you understand what a cuck is.



In the current form of the word...yes, yes i do.

Posted by Sgt_Lincoln_Osiris
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Posted on 11/23/16 at 11:42 am to
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Hmmmmmmm, I'm sure the writers think it's not big deal and makes perfect sense that MIB and William wear their holsters on opposite sides.


That's a great point. I think so far only MiB and Hemsworth are the only two we've seen with a cross draw.

But I could reason that William is new to the park and feels like he needs that quick draw; whereas MiB has experienced almost everything and knows he can take his time killing hosts since they can't hurt him.
This post was edited on 11/23/16 at 11:44 am
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 11/23/16 at 11:42 am to
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In the current form of the word...yes, yes i do.


Who do you posit is banging his wife?
Posted by Hester Carries
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Posted on 11/23/16 at 11:48 am to
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Who do you posit is banging his wife?



Thats not what cuck means in todays social lexicon.
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 11/23/16 at 11:55 am to
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Thats not what cuck means in todays social lexicon.


Enlighten me.
Posted by Hester Carries
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Posted on 11/23/16 at 12:00 pm to
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Enlighten me.



Broadly it refers to dudes who are weak and often effeminate. Basically cuck is the new beta.
Posted by 19
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Posted on 11/23/16 at 12:37 pm to
What if William = MiB is just a red herring?

Doesn't Logan and his easter egg hunting and view of Delores fit more with him being MiB years later?

...isn't the company in his family already, and William just "marrying into it"

?
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 11/23/16 at 12:45 pm to
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Basically cuck is the new beta.


Both dumb as all frick. Perhaps you could keep it on the Poli Board unless somebody decides to film The Canterbury Tales.
Posted by PowerTool
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Posted on 11/23/16 at 12:50 pm to
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Why does everyone think the hosts had to be clunky 30 years ago? Wild Bill in the basement is clunky because he hasn't been serviced in forever. He's deteriorated beyond repair and is only kept around by Ford out of sentimentality, otherwise he'd have been incinerated. The other times hosts were shown acting spacy and disjointed were all during flashbacks to beta testing before the park opened. The only difference between the old hosts and the new is the synthetic skin.


You've skipped a lot of discussion about improvements in the hosts. Even the MiB has talked about taking a host apart when he first got there 30 years ago. And in flashbacks they've shown host innards that look very different than what we see in "current" production.
Posted by Hester Carries
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Posted on 11/23/16 at 12:59 pm to
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Both dumb as all frick. Perhaps you could keep it on the Poli Board unless somebody decides to film The Canterbury Tales.



Nah i like it, you cuck
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