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re: 'Welcome to Derry' Discussion Thread | Spoilers Allowed
Posted on 11/3/25 at 11:35 am to Floridafan813
Posted on 11/3/25 at 11:35 am to Floridafan813
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A good theory I’ve heard is the baby is pennywise rebirth. It’s him early in his cycle after 27 years dormant.
But the first part of the book is 1958, this is 1962. I guess I'm a bit confused on the timeline.
ETA: Someone explained it later, its based on movie timeline.
This post was edited on 11/3/25 at 11:38 am
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Posted on 11/3/25 at 11:43 am to metallica81788
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Anyone complaining about the race stuff doesn't know the backstory within IT, already mentioned. It was one of the more interesting parts of the book IMO.
As long as it doesn't become what the entire series is about. Which I don't think it has been so far, but there has been a decent chunk of episode time for it to this point plus the obvious "falsely accused black man" story line they are setting up.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 11:46 am to VolSquatch
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plus the obvious "falsely accused black man" story line they are setting up.
Or maybe it's a falsely accused theater worker story line.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 11:47 am to MorbidTheClown
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But, I was just thinking it's a bunch of kids dealing with something the adults either don't believe or are just not aware of yet.
You haven't read lot of Stephen King have you. This is a recurring theme in a lot of his writing.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 11:50 am to ATrillionaire
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Or maybe it's a falsely accused theater worker story line.
A classic trope, no doubt
Posted on 11/3/25 at 1:26 pm to msap9020
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You haven't read lot of Stephen King have you.
not a one.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 1:27 pm to VolSquatch
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A classic trope, no doubt
Or, he runs the theater, and the kids were let in by his daughter.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 1:32 pm to msap9020
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You haven't read lot of Stephen King have you. This is a recurring theme in a lot of his writing.
Some here would have a stroke reading Susannah's dialogue in the Dark Tower series.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 1:47 pm to metallica81788
quote:Yeah, but the need to have a subplot centered around race in every show set in America's past is getting old.
Anyone complaining about the race stuff doesn't know the backstory within IT, already mentioned. It was one of the more interesting parts of the book IMO.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 2:46 pm to ATrillionaire
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Or, he runs the theater, and the kids were let in by his daughter.
If you cant see the parallel I'm drawing (which is pretty obvious) I can't really help you.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 2:47 pm to Handsome Pete
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Yeah, but the need to have a subplot centered around race in every show set in America's past is getting old.
Yeah I don't think this one in particular feels out of place or is too over the top (yet). But I do have general fatigue (lol) on the topic.
Posted on 11/3/25 at 6:34 pm to metallica81788
Anyone complaining about the race stuff doesn't know the backstory within IT, already mentioned. It was one of the more interesting parts of the book IMO
Posted on 11/4/25 at 12:25 pm to MorbidTheClown
He's written like a 100 books and you've never read one? I thought everyone has read some King.
He's got some classics.
Some horrible stinkers too.
He's got some classics.
Some horrible stinkers too.
Posted on 11/4/25 at 12:28 pm to Handsome Pete
Sadly it was a big part of our history though.
It is more unbelivable when it's just ignored. The past can't be changed. It's what happened.
It is more unbelivable when it's just ignored. The past can't be changed. It's what happened.
Posted on 11/4/25 at 12:38 pm to Conway Tittayz
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Anyone complaining about the race stuff doesn't know the backstory within IT, already mentioned. It was one of the more interesting parts of the book IMO
Well and to go further beyond that, Pennywise feeds on fear (again it "salts the meat"). We're in a period right before the Civil Rights Act of 1964 when things are really coming to a head. Black folks likely were fearful of what could happen during that period.
I understand the fatigue with Hollywood overall, but if there was an appropriate place/medium for it to be portrayed the 1960s would be it.
Posted on 11/4/25 at 12:46 pm to Napoleon
quote:Just because it is a true part of our history, doesn't mean it has to be featured in every show from the era. Plenty of other things were going on in the early '60s that don't get a subplot.
Sadly it was a big part of our history though.
It is more unbelivable when it's just ignored. The past can't be changed. It's what happened.
Posted on 11/4/25 at 12:56 pm to dcw7g
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Just because it is a true part of our history, doesn't mean it has to be featured in every show from the era. Plenty of other things were going on in the early '60s that don't get a subplot.
Sure, if we were talking about a show just about the 1960s.
But the whole point of the show is to explore Pennywise's previous cycles mentioned in the book IT when Mike Hanlon is doing his research of the history of Derry. One of those very prominent subplots is a subplot rooted in racism in the 1960s (I'm trying to avoid spoiling further).
Context matters here.
Posted on 11/4/25 at 1:03 pm to BluegrassBelle
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One of those very prominent subplots is a subplot rooted in racism in the 1960s (I'm trying to avoid spoiling further).
Exactly. I love how people always yell 'stick to the source material' but then in this situation it's, 'well, not that source material.'
Posted on 11/4/25 at 2:57 pm to RLDSC FAN
I mean we don't need the 12 year old kids having a gang bang though. That was the one part of the book I thought was stupid.
Posted on 11/4/25 at 6:54 pm to RLDSC FAN
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Exactly. I love how people always yell 'stick to the source material' but then in this situation it's, 'well, not that source material.'
Agreed. I agree with having "woke fatigue." It definitely has been crammed into a lot of mediums unnecessarily. But that's caused some, including more than a few posters on this board, to swing the other way in that any time there's a race, sexuality, or womanhood issue they just automatically scream "WOKE BS!" and refuse to watch. Who cares if it's historically accurate or accurate to a source material...and in this case a source material that is decades older than the term "woke,"... they simply don't want to hear it.
Shoot, there were people complaining about the racial undertones in Sinners which was set in rural Mississippi in the 1930s.
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 5:47 pm
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