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re: Watching Once Upon in Hollywood..

Posted on 12/14/19 at 8:08 am to
Posted by Ssubba
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Posted on 12/14/19 at 8:08 am to
Don't cry in front of the Mexicans.

Great movie. The way Sharon Tate was used was very subtle and sweet. Lot of layers of teasing with Tate's fighting training with Bruce Lee. Pitt and the Ranch scenes stole the show. Leo was good as well. One thing I hate though was the narrator. Takes me out of the movie. The ending scenes could have been structured just fine without it.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 12/14/19 at 9:55 am to
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Just finished watching. Loved the movie and LD and BP were excellent.


I think i'll like it but we'll see. I thought i'd like basterds too but i hated it.

I don't know why eight didn't get alot of press. I loved that. The march through the snow was gripping as shite.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
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Posted on 12/14/19 at 6:03 pm to
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The opening scene in basterds though? shite that was awful


I honestly don't even know how to respond to this opinion.


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that chick talk in death proof


But yes, this was fricking horrible.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
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Posted on 12/14/19 at 7:35 pm to
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The opening scene in basterds though? shite that was awful



I honestly don't even know how to respond to this opinion. 


The scene went on too long man. The suspense was lost, wasted. It was sorta like that very first ascent on a rollercoaster. It's scary and suspenseful. Even though you know what's coming, it's still exciting. But if that ascent is too slow and plodding, you just start tapping your watch and saying "i know there's a drop coming, now get on with it".

Well that's exactly how that opening scene was. We all knew when the scene started, bullets were gonna fly through the floor, no surprises there. When it finally arrived though, all i could think was about fricking time.
This post was edited on 12/14/19 at 7:37 pm
Posted by Dick Leverage
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Posted on 12/15/19 at 12:30 am to
I liked how they used the Director name Antonio Margarhetti in one of the film promotions that they were watching on their screen. Just a neat nod to the use of the character name in Bastards.
Posted by oklahogjr
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Posted on 12/15/19 at 11:21 am to
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I liked how they used the Director name Antonio Margarhetti in one of the film promotions that they were watching on their screen. Just a neat nod to the use of the character name in Bastards.


that was a nice touch.

overall I thought the movie was a little disappointing at times. Ending, Spahn Ranch, opening scene, The hitchhiking.


I thought it was weak that basically the three intertwined stories only two are really intertwined while 1 they just tack on at the end.
Posted by RabidTiger
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Posted on 12/15/19 at 12:30 pm to
You done fricked up by not seeing it in the theatre.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
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Posted on 12/19/19 at 5:05 pm to
I'm watching this movie tonight. I'll get back with you.
Posted by jg8623
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Posted on 12/19/19 at 5:09 pm to
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I'm watching this movie tonight. I'll get back with you


Posted by Pandy Fackler
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Posted on 12/19/19 at 10:51 pm to
Ok, first of all. I liked the "behind the green door" musical piece, not bad.

The Bruce lee scene was fun.

Kurt Russell's character should've been named Mike.

I get the whole Austin Powers look now.

Leonardo DiCaprio was really good in his western acting scenes.

The Spahn ranch scene was tense for a little while but odd. I was kinda hoping Cliff would be somewhat seduced and sucked in a little by that whole lifestyle. That scene went nowhere though and really didn't set anything up, other than Cliff recognizing them all in the final minutes.

And speaking of Cliff. We're left asking ourselves what difference does it make if he killed his wife or not? Why is that a part of this story? There was zero purpose to that and it added nothing at all to his character.

Dirty feet on hot chicks does it for me and that was an ongoing theme.

Ok so here it is.

That movie's perfectly fine as a rental where you can just sorta sit on your sofa and let it unfold but if I had to sit in an uncomfortable theater seat and watch this shite for almost 3 hours, I'd be really pissed. There was nothing at all compelling about this movie and nothing about it is worth seeing in a theater.

What a horrible movie to see in a theater. Long, disjointed, no sustained suspense or ongoing humorous themes. Very little action and really not much at all in the way of character development.

I didn't give a shite about Rick or Cliff, they were generally dull but Tarantino did do a good job of making me like the Tate character. Sharon Tate watching her own movie was an enjoyable scene but that probably had something to do with her dirty feet.

There weren't any real peaks or valleys in this. It just sorta praddled and hummed along with no real point other than to show that Rick Dalton was a has been.

The Dalton character is really what the movie is centered around and how can the storyline of a washed up actor sustain a movie like this?

In the last act though, the tension did start to build as the time line was narrated by stuntman mike.

You could feel it all coming to a head. But should you have to sit through about 2 hours and 10 minutes of what amounts to chatter for a payoff like that?



No.




This movie was a fricking bore but an ok bore as long as you're on your own sofa.


This post was edited on 12/20/19 at 12:08 am
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Posted on 12/19/19 at 11:02 pm to
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What a horrible movie to see in a theater.

LOL
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 12/20/19 at 6:56 am to
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What a horrible movie to see in a theater.


I saw it twice in the theater. You want to know the last film I went to see twice in a cinema?

Rhymes with Bar Wars.

So, respectfully, opinions obviously vary.
Posted by cigsmcgee
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 12/20/19 at 7:27 am to
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And speaking of Cliff. We're left asking ourselves what difference does it make if he killed his wife or not? Why is that a part of this story? There was zero purpose to that and it added nothing at all to his character.


because cliff may or may not be a murderer. he may or may not be someone who has killed a person. he may or may not be willing/able to do it again, maybe to some randos.

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This movie was a fricking bore but an ok bore as long as you're on your own sofa.



unfortunately i agree with you.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11462 posts
Posted on 12/20/19 at 7:59 am to
I imagine the Bruce Lee scene really rustled the jimmies of the Bruce fan boys. Especially when Cliff told Bruce what most logical people think would happen in a fight between Lee and Muhammad Ali.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 12/20/19 at 9:53 am to
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because cliff may or may not be a murderer. he may or may not be someone who has killed a person. he may or may not be willing/able to do it again, maybe to some randos.



Well cliff's willingness to be a badass or even a killer was established in the bruce lee scene and when dalton spoke about him being a "war hero".

Why set up cliff as a guy who may or may not have killed his wife only to do nothing at all with it? Cliff's badassery could have simply been set up in a liquor store robbery or a bar fight or whatever else. Or maybe even a war flashback. Anything other than create a dead end storyline.

I thought this was just a really lazy movie. It wasn't even a good study in historical 60's pop culture or fashion. Unless of course we all consider driving around in old Cadillacs and shite a step back in time. I didn't feel taken back at all by this.

A movie like this is where Quentin Tarantino can take some serious lessons from Martin Scorsese. That guy knows how to take you back and really immerse you in a certain period. Goodfellas is an excellent example of this.
This post was edited on 12/20/19 at 9:56 am
Posted by BRich
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Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 12/20/19 at 10:04 am to
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Why set up cliff as a guy who may or may not have killed his wife only to do nothing at all with it? Cliff's badassery could have simply been set up in a liquor store robbery or a bar fight or whatever else. Or maybe even a war flashback. Anything other than create a dead end storyline.


It's not done to set up Cliff's "badassery", it's done to show WHY he was being blacklisted/ostracized by folks in Hollywood. Take away the possible wife killing and he's probably still a hot commodity, a well-respected well-experienced badass stuntman. Instead, he (like his buddy Rick Dalton) were getting left on the fringe in Hollywood-- has-beens, "washed up".
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
14183 posts
Posted on 12/20/19 at 10:14 am to
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It's not done to set up Cliff's "badassery", it's done to show WHY he was being blacklisted/ostracized by folks in Hollywood. Take away the possible wife killing and he's probably still a hot commodity, a well-respected well-experienced badass stuntman.


Well Cliff's badassery (my words) or willingness to be a murderer is sorta what the other guy was saying but fair enough.

That could've been done better though with maybe him accidentally killing someone on set a few years back or whatever. That's a much better reason to "blacklist" someone. But instead, Tarantino started and immediately stopped a weird and pointless storyline for no good reason at all.
This post was edited on 12/20/19 at 10:19 am
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
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Member since May 2013
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Posted on 12/20/19 at 12:58 pm to
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The Manson stuff is a small part of the movie, mostly an afterthought. Sharon Tate could be cut out completely and it wouldn't change anything.


I totally disagree. It’s the unseen engine that drives the whole movie.


Possible SPOLIERS:


You are correct. It is essentially about a formerly great actor trying to keep his career alive mixed with the Manson Murder of Sharon Tate. To me, it was like watching two movies at once and having them intertwine just enough to loop them together and then having the two movies converge in an epic scene of brutality.

I found it to be a really good movie.
This post was edited on 12/20/19 at 1:00 pm
Posted by cigsmcgee
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 12/20/19 at 2:06 pm to
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Well Cliff's badassery (my words) or willingness to be a murderer is sorta what the other guy was saying but fair enough


Yeah, i like the other poster's explanation better.
Posted by Dubosed
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/20/19 at 2:15 pm to
I watched it last night and loved it the entire way through. My wife liked it as well.
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