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Posted on 5/13/14 at 4:11 pm to CarRamrod
Nia Long in Boiler Room was 
Posted on 5/13/14 at 4:11 pm to trillhog
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I just felt like Wolf was kind of like the first Hangover, everybody jumps on it b/c people are doing drugs and there tittys and what not. Take away all that and it's pretty lame. Boiler room has the tension of the guy and his dad, the tension of the new money guys vs the old money, an interacial relationship.. ect ect... way more of a "film" imo
i couldn't maybe take you serious if your comparisons weren't complete shite.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 4:24 pm to Byron Bojangles III
ok? i don't even know what the frick you are talking about, why don't you elaborate.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 4:44 pm to Byron Bojangles III
I really want to contribute to this thread, but I agree with trillhog and that makes me feel disgusting.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 4:46 pm to guedeaux
way to stand on your own there buddy.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 4:52 pm to trillhog
Boiler Room was more like a knock off of Wall Street. I've never seen a movie I could compare to Wolf of Wall Street. It never resorts to being just another morality tale like I expected. First and foremost it's a comedy. It's also a fantasy (maybe sort of a satire of a fantasy) for the modern day emasculated white male. I don't know what percent of Scorsese was mocking versus shamelessly celebrating.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 5:13 pm to beaverfever
People who try to read into Wolf amuse me.
It was an entertaining movie. It had little by way of artistic qualities. I don't care, I thought it was really entertaining, but that's why the comparison to American Hustle is so skewed, because they're entirely different. Wolf is a book adaptation with jokes, language, nudity and drug use and otherwise forgettable performances and writing. American Hustle was dull, with great performances and a better, if less entertaining, story.
Anyway, Boiler Room was good, but Wolf and BR are too different for a comparison.
It was an entertaining movie. It had little by way of artistic qualities. I don't care, I thought it was really entertaining, but that's why the comparison to American Hustle is so skewed, because they're entirely different. Wolf is a book adaptation with jokes, language, nudity and drug use and otherwise forgettable performances and writing. American Hustle was dull, with great performances and a better, if less entertaining, story.
Anyway, Boiler Room was good, but Wolf and BR are too different for a comparison.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 5:25 pm to Pettifogger
quote:couldn't disagree more. Movies that funny don't come along too often.
forgettable performances and writing
Posted on 5/13/14 at 5:41 pm to beaverfever
Was The Dark Knight a knockoff of Batman returns?
Posted on 5/13/14 at 5:46 pm to beaverfever
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couldn't disagree more. Movies that funny don't come along too often.
I can't think of a single part of dialogue that was hysterical, it was pretty low brow that I recall. Again, not that I didn't like it, I just didn't think it was much different from any other reasonably good comedy.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 5:52 pm to Pettifogger
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American Hustle was dull, with great performances and a better, if less entertaining, story.
American hustle was very dull. All gimicky period-props, sets, and costumes, no substance whatsoever.
The acting was just overwhelmingly mediocre, people are just blinded by the star power but Bale, Cooper, Adams, Renner, and Lawrence (who's never been a good actor) totally mailed it in.
The story was far less interesting/entertaining than the rise and fall of Jordan Belfort.
This post was edited on 5/13/14 at 5:55 pm
Posted on 5/13/14 at 5:57 pm to trillhog
I feel like Wolf of Wall Street is very misunderstood. By going so over the top MS is expressing something about the debauchery he's portraying and the people involved then connecting them to and critiquing a side effect of capitalism and the free market. Scorsese views them and inextricably linked. Those who feel there's not much going on in this movie are missing the commentary IMO. I's not the best movie ever made or anything like that but it's certainly more layered than Boiler Room, which is essentially as by the numbers formulaic a movie as it gets.
This post was edited on 5/13/14 at 5:58 pm
Posted on 5/13/14 at 6:06 pm to trillhog
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also Ribisi's hustle as a gambling house made his rise more believable.
A casino in his living room is more believable than Belfort's rise thru sales calls...which he actually did?
I don't get how people can say you can't compare the two movies. It's the same movie to me, one's told thru the eyes of one of Belfort's soldiers, and the other is told thru Belfort. It's all rise and fall and some wish fulfillment in between. The only things different to me were the tone, the budget, and what the cache of Oscar talent allowed them to show on screen.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 6:31 pm to trillhog
Don't knock Blow
Posted on 5/13/14 at 6:38 pm to Fusaichi Pegasus
I've only seen boiler room once, years ago when it first came out on DVD. I remember I liked it a lot, more than wolf which I liked as well. I need to watch boiler room again and see what I think now.
One thing I did like about wolf though is belfort was a bad guy that mostly got away with it. Meaning if he had it to do all over again, he would do the same as the positives vastly outweighed the negatives imo. I like that wolf stuck with that as that is how it was for the real belfort. He really got away with it at the end of the day.
One thing I did like about wolf though is belfort was a bad guy that mostly got away with it. Meaning if he had it to do all over again, he would do the same as the positives vastly outweighed the negatives imo. I like that wolf stuck with that as that is how it was for the real belfort. He really got away with it at the end of the day.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 6:39 pm to wildtigercat93
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Was The Dark Knight a knockoff of Batman returns?
Actually, a better comparison for DK is probably Love Actually.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 6:52 pm to ManBearTiger
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Lawrence (who's never been a good actor)
Um, what?
Posted on 5/13/14 at 6:52 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
I imagine Belfort would do just a few things differently.
Posted on 5/13/14 at 7:00 pm to DanglingFury
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The only things different to me were the tone, the budget, and what the cache of Oscar talent allowed them to show on screen.
Exactly what i'm trying to say. Same movie, dumbed down, glossed over with flashy cinematography, throw Leo in there and Scorcese and now i'd bet the are in the oscar talk 95% without seeing the movie. Theres no story, no build up, It's like a carton, which is fine, but its not anything award worthy, you can't just make everything about stylization a la Wolf and Great Gapsby throw a name or two in there and it be a contender. We need more real movies like Slum Dog Millionaire, which is a film with substance.
Not that they are same type of movie, I'm just talking about the story
This post was edited on 5/13/14 at 7:11 pm
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