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Posted on 4/21/10 at 6:21 pm to VOR
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Dude, I know you get a kick out of being the Skip Bayless of TD, but you need to polish up your act.
would you want to hang around john goodman or zhan's characters?
also, other than outright hatred of those 2 characters, i still don't see how they're "interesting" at this point
Posted on 4/21/10 at 6:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
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would you want to hang around john goodman or zhan's characters?
seriously? is this how you judge the quality of movie/tv characters?
Posted on 4/21/10 at 6:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
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would you want to hang around john goodman or zhan's characters?
Zahn probably not, Goodman probably so but I don't see what that has to do with whether or not they are good characters.
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i still don't see how they're "interesting" at this point
Thats your opinion and I can't argue that. I find Zahn's character interesting bc of his passion for the city and the fact that people kind of put him in his place a lot which I find funny. Honestly I am on the fence about Goodman bc his part has been relatively minor so far.
The only characters I don't care for are Khandi Alexander's character (chick bar owner who can't find her brother) and the guy street performer (I actually kind of like the girl performer)
Posted on 4/21/10 at 7:56 pm to STEVED00
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chick bar owner who can't find her brother
yeah she's pretty worthless outside of saying "rouge" in baton rouge well
i think her entire character conflict is whether she starts fricking bunk or not
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and the guy street performer
frick that guy and every person for whom he's acting as a metaphor
Posted on 4/21/10 at 10:01 pm to SlowFlowPro
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frick that guy and every person for whom he's acting as a metaphor
hes not a metaphor, hes a character. and while i dont agree with the street music shtick, he does have a valid point about the 9th ward.
it was typically a very impoverished, african american, area that most of white, middle class society, does not appear to concerned with. they only appear to care when it was TOTALLY obliterated.
the wisconsin kids' concern was largely superficial and almost voyeuristic and the street kid called them on it. but i didnt really like how he semi-mocked, placated them. i think it would have been more authentic if he had just told them to frick off.
This post was edited on 4/21/10 at 10:07 pm
Posted on 4/21/10 at 10:23 pm to makinskrilla
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the wisconsin kids' concern was largely superficial and almost voyeuristic and the street kid called them on it. but i didnt really like how he semi-mocked, placated them. i think it would have been more authentic if he had just told them to frick off.
You wanna really be pissed off? You should have driven down there during the first two or three years after the storm and get a lecture from the carpetbagger activists who didn't . . . and stil don't . . . know their asses from a hole in the ground.
Posted on 4/21/10 at 10:27 pm to SlowFlowPro
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would you want to hang around john goodman or zhan's characters?
Irrelevant, actually, as to their merit as characters in a series. That said, I think Zahn's character is amusing and, yes, possibly becoming interesting.
Goodman's character is overblown, perhaps, but is representative of profs who were/are pretty passionate after the storm. The bit where he was reading about programs being terminated at Tulane was absolutely dead on. I heard some of those very discussions.
Posted on 4/21/10 at 10:32 pm to VOR
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You should have driven down there during the first two or three years
i lived there during those years, and in january 2006, i wrote a paper for my graduate program detailing a square mile in the lower9th after the storm. it looked like a nuclear winter had befallen the area.
they were still finding bodies in that area at that time.
Posted on 4/22/10 at 7:07 am to makinskrilla
I would not have wanted to hang out with "Stringer," but he was one of the best characters on tv.
Posted on 4/22/10 at 8:20 am to makinskrilla
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the wisconsin kids' concern was largely superficial and almost voyeuristic
pretty much all help from outside areas in the history of mankind are superficial and voyeuristic
but had nobody helped nola? holy fricking shite would we have heard bitching and whining (mainly from the type who live in the 9th ward)
Posted on 4/22/10 at 8:27 am to VOR
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Irrelevant, actually, as to their merit as characters in a series
not really
i fricking hate them and the types of people from nola they represent
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The bit where he was reading about programs being terminated at Tulane was absolutely dead on.
that was one scene where he didn't come off as a supreme douchetool
pretty much every other scene with him made him look horrible
the scene on the river with the reporter. the scene where he's going crazy at home on the phone interview. showing him eating out at that restaurant acting like a smug rhinoceros
even the scene with the discussion on the cut programs ends up making him look like a motherfricker. he does the typical smug, elitist-wannabe, "i guess i may finish my book" exhale
i understand frustration, but when it reaches the level of whining of a 13 year old girl, it makes you a frick. what the frick was tulane supposed to do? i don't see his character (and his brethren) offering to give up chunks of their salary to try to keep some other departments open
Posted on 4/22/10 at 8:49 am to SlowFlowPro
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he does the typical smug, elitist-wannabe,
That's why I thought he'd be your favorite character Slo.
Posted on 4/22/10 at 8:52 am to DanglingFury
i am a man of the people
Posted on 4/22/10 at 10:32 am to SlowFlowPro
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what the frick was tulane supposed to do?
Tuland and Loyola both panicked. They made some moves and cuts that eliminated some valuable programs. Both universities demonstrated a lack of faith in themselves and the city.
Posted on 4/22/10 at 10:39 am to VOR
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Tuland and Loyola both panicked. They made some moves and cuts that eliminated some valuable programs. Both universities demonstrated a lack of faith in themselves and the city
To be fair though, Tulane's engineering program was NOT really that great anyway. There bread and butter is the liberal arts (ie rich folks don't send there kids to Tulane for an engineering degree)
Posted on 4/22/10 at 10:46 am to STEVED00
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To be fair though, Tulane's engineering program was NOT really that great anyway
I've heard that from some, but there were other cuts taken in haste. And Loyola's elimination of its communications programs still mystifies me.
Posted on 4/22/10 at 11:23 am to SlowFlowPro
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would you want to hang around john goodman or zhan's characters?
Would you want to hang out with Bubbles?
Posted on 4/22/10 at 11:41 am to makinskrilla
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the wisconsin kids' concern was largely superficial and almost voyeuristic and the street kid called them on it. but i didnt really like how he semi-mocked, placated them. i think it would have been more authentic if he had just told them to frick off.
Everybody in town knew this but there were very few New Orleanians who wanted to call out anybody who came to N.O. to help out, no matter how naive or superficial the visitors were.
Many local churches set up support centers for visiting groups - fed them, housed them, etc.... and thanked them!
I don't think the street musician's venom was very realistic.
Posted on 4/22/10 at 12:18 pm to Jimbeaux
I had enough of this show after the first 25 min....
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