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re: Transformers: Rise of the Beasts — I saw this POS tonight so you won’t have to

Posted on 6/9/23 at 12:47 pm to
Posted by Jay Are
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
5864 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 12:47 pm to
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Michael Bay had his issues, but at least we could count on a visual spectacle.


Really? I stopped after the second one because the style was so visually incoherent.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18889 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 1:03 pm to
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Is it explained why they now are giant jungle animals?


To increase toy sales.
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
15695 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 1:21 pm to
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The black female protagonist is like a 25 year old genius know-it-all artifacts expert. With a glance, she can instantly authenticate and appraise any artifact. She’s not remotely attractive, nor does she have charisma, charm, or humor


Of course she was smarter than all of the men in the movie. They can check both the diversity and girl boss boxes with that one. Did they try to force a romantic connection between her and the Latino guy?
Posted by Duzz
Houston
Member since Feb 2008
10219 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 1:30 pm to
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I don’t know why, but I was excited about seeing a Transformers


I am gonna go the opposite way. I was not excited about the movie but I wanted to be out of the house and while baby sitting my two nephew figure it was a better choice since they enjoyed bumblebee. I did not it was okay at best for me, the bumblebee movie.

So I came into this movie with very low expectation and was planning on tolerating it for the sake of the children.

I ended up enjoying it massively. Sure there was no hot women but more importantly then that, there was no incoherent yelling either. You know the borderline schzoco yelling and screaming like Bay films are known for.

Instead you had adult and people while stressed, still use adult vocabulary to express themselves. You had...coherency in a robot plot. Even the battle made sense and it does build off the backs of Bumblebee making me appreciate the movie more in hindsight.

There was some camp of course since this is now geared towards family films and not horny teenagers. So yes you have the whole brothers dynamic that can be commonly found in like airbud movies.

The CGI is not egregious either, it was uncanny valley for me. At no point was I really pulled out of it. Also the Maximal DO transform. I dont get the idea where they don't.

What surprise me the most was how much the robots had screen time in general. It more of a transformer plot with human side stories then a human story with transformer plot like in bay stories.

Overall if you like OG transfromer you will enjoy this. If you grew up with bay, the lack of hot women, military involvement, and dumb one liner is very noticeable.

I will say that as much as I like old school Optimus, I preferred his bay truck from more. His current form makes him feel weak.

Oh and the SJW? Yeah not not noticeable at all, that white people love that shite line is a thing said in minority family all the time in the 90s. Its not a big deal at all and the only real racial joke. There is no BLM, there is no, Antifa, no anti-gov message or the commonly seen LBGTQRSTUV character. Which was also surprising. I thought for sure the black girl lbgtq but nope, she straight.

As for her smarts, it no different then Mark Walberg (I'm an inventor!) where he knows how to hack advance drones and shite. This girl study in archeology, no shite she would know some. You turn her character white, it makes no changes. Races was not a part of her ability.

They also use Peter Cullen a lot better here than in later Transformer movies. He doesn't have weird lines anymore like "Give me your face." Everything he say make sense and syncs up with the scene.


All in all a solid film but the ending scene, was a bit of a "huh?" moment.

Posted by Styxion
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2012
1728 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 1:49 pm to
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The “beasts” were wholly forgettable. Simply animal-shaped robots, for some reason. They didn’t transform and had zero personality.


Man this sucks. Beast Wars was one of my favorites growing up.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
19420 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 2:10 pm to
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Michael Bay

Bay needs to make a film called "explosive" with just random scenes of shite getting blown up one after another. The plot is dude steals the JFK documents and the deep state just tries to kill him for the next 2 hours straight.
Posted by BulldogXero
Member since Oct 2011
10207 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 3:44 pm to
I loved Bumblebee. I watched the 2007 Transformers movie after I saw Bumblebee and thought it was the worst trash I'd ever seen.
Posted by grifterfad
Mobile, Al
Member since Jun 2013
224 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 4:14 pm to
The Cybertron scenes in Bumblebee were great. This one looks like another Bayverse. I thought it was supposed to be a sequel to Bumblebee. Was it not made by the same studio?
Posted by shutupfarva
tLP
Member since Apr 2015
48 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 10:15 pm to
Saw it tonight, really liked it. I wouldn't call it a real sequel to Bumblebee but they do make a reference or two to that movie in this one.

The OP went into this movie looking for reasons to hate it and def did not pay attention. The Maximals DO transform. Maximus Prime literally tells them to going in to the final battle.

I'd rate this one third behind the OG(2007) movie and Bumblebee but it's very close to BB. We'll probably see it again. My son has seen them all with me and said this was his favorite.

And yes, if you love 90's hip hop then this soundtrack will be for you.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83192 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 10:21 pm to
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The OP went into this movie looking for reasons to hate it


Why would i go see a movie on opening night looking to hate it? I’ve been a Transformers fan since 1985. between tickets food and drinks, I spent enough money and wanted to be entertained.

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The Maximals DO transform. Maximus Prime literally tells them to going in to the final battle.
I guess so, but I don’t remember it at all. They were extraordinarily bland forgetful robots with zero personality.

Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83192 posts
Posted on 6/9/23 at 10:22 pm to
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I'd rate this one third behind the OG(2007) movie


The OG:
Posted by olemc999
At a blackjack table
Member since Oct 2010
15090 posts
Posted on 6/10/23 at 4:14 am to
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Haha that was the wise advice given to the protagonist by his mom as he was heading out for an interview.


Later on Wheeljack called him a racist so it evened out.
Posted by USMCguy121
Northshore
Member since Aug 2021
6332 posts
Posted on 6/10/23 at 1:33 pm to
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“make sure to laugh at all their jokes—white people love that shite.”


jesus christ

replace the word 'white' with any other race.

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that white people love that shite line is a thing said in minority family all the time in the 90s.


shite man maybe i was sheltered af but my nonwhite dad never said anything like this in my life. his job interview advice was to be polite and professional, sit/stand up straight and refer the people interviewing as 'sir' and 'ma'am'

Knowing how pop culture is it feels like they're just overt with their despicable shite now. in a fricking kids movie.


i'd rather not perpetuate this BS. Could be the best movie ever but even innocuous references bother me now because i know its just a mean spirit behind them.


thanks for the scoops from all posters. I'll have to find the scene on youtube and make a final judgment.
This post was edited on 6/10/23 at 1:44 pm
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
41654 posts
Posted on 6/10/23 at 3:39 pm to
I haven't seen this movie and don't care to but to get into spoiler territory a bit ...














is there some hint of a GI Joe team up at the end? How does this play out?
Posted by tiger_nurse
Member since Aug 2012
580 posts
Posted on 6/11/23 at 12:37 am to
Just got out of it in Dolby. I enjoyed it. The OP was definitely looking for any remote woke trigger. I personally didn’t notice any at all. Also, the beasts did transform, so I don’t know what he was looking at. I will agree the female lead was not good at all and just an overall bad choice. I rank this one third also behind the 07 OG and bumblebee.

Being a nurse, the sickle cell anemia in a Hispanic threw me off. While it is possible, most people associate this disease with African descent. So it def was an odd choice for a disease. Lazy writing on that part.

The new transformer “mirage” voiced by Pete Davidson was a good addition.
Posted by tiger_nurse
Member since Aug 2012
580 posts
Posted on 6/11/23 at 12:48 am to
OP must’ve been high when he saw it. They definitely transform and all of them do speak. I really don’t know if the OP even saw the movie at this point.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83192 posts
Posted on 6/11/23 at 8:18 am to
The leopard and rhino said a couple words. The gorilla and eagle spoke more. The gorilla was just another Optimus.

They were lame.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83192 posts
Posted on 6/11/23 at 8:19 am to
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The OP was definitely looking for any remote woke trigger.

I didn’t mention wokeness at all…
Posted by nino2469
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Sep 2004
5538 posts
Posted on 6/11/23 at 9:14 am to
Wasn't bad,wasn't great. Few things I didn't like such as NOah getting Mirages tech. I mean even for a robot movie that was over the top.

Love seeing the G1 versions of everyone I grew up with. Not sure why the changes Wheeljack though.

The last scene got my 8 yeah old self really excited! My son look at me and said I dont get it. Time to break out some GI Joe for him.
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
58589 posts
Posted on 6/11/23 at 9:36 am to
Wish they would have brought on the director of Bumblebee again if it is a spiritual sequel.
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