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Posted on 7/12/14 at 3:39 pm to abellsujr
Posted on 7/12/14 at 3:39 pm to abellsujr
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Why don't you think it equals acting?
Because he's not acting - he's doing motion capture and voiceover.
I'm not even going to say that voiceover folks can't be geniuses - Mel Blanc first and foremost.
Likewise, puppetry/muppetry, which is what motion capture is a very sophisticated variant, can also be genius and key to suspending disbelief.
Now, how close is what he does, versus Dustin Hoffman in makeup/drag in Tootsie or, say, Brad Pitt those "young/old" scenes in Benjamin Button? I'm not sure, but I can't call it acting yet - I can't equate it to a performance like George C. Scott in Patton, Deniro in Taxi Driver, etc.
There are too many enhancements/technological additions for that. It blurs the line between animation and acting - and I admit it may just be my old-fashioned nature.
Posted on 7/12/14 at 3:47 pm to StiffDewsAreTheWorst
Can't wait to see what he does in the new star wars.
Posted on 7/12/14 at 3:56 pm to Brosef Stalin
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Robin Williams was nominated for Aladdin but he was already established as a "real" actor.
I just checked on that and I don't think he was.
Posted on 7/12/14 at 4:00 pm to Brosef Stalin
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Golden Globe, my bad
Well, he got a special category award, not best supporting actor nom. I do think it is inevitable that Serkis will be awarded by the Academy, but don't expect it for another decade or two for a Lifetime Achievement Award, since everyone who knows anything about motion capture knows he's getting the shaft.
Posted on 7/12/14 at 4:03 pm to Ace Midnight
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Because he's not acting - he's doing motion capture and voiceover.
So anyone who voices a character isn't acting? You do know they're called voice actors, right?
Posted on 7/12/14 at 4:07 pm to OMLandshark
He's not just doing voice over. He is acting with the other actors. The CGI is done later.
Posted on 7/12/14 at 4:19 pm to OMLandshark
I think the special category was because they really liked his performance but didn't know where to fit him in. That's why its time for a new award honoring voice acting and motion capture. Not sure what you'd call it but let Serkis compete with voice actors. I think he has a different skill set than regular actors anyway.
Posted on 7/12/14 at 4:22 pm to OMLandshark
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You do know they're called voice actors, right?
Yes - I'm aware of that.
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So anyone who voices a character isn't acting?
No - lots of times actors have to go back in and dub the lines in. But, they acted live in the scene - we get to see - at least a final cut - of their entire performance.
The CGI people cover up Serkis performance - he just gives them an ultra-realistic template over which to animate.
I don't know what y'all want from me - we'll just have to agree to disagree.
Posted on 7/12/14 at 4:23 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:I think they capture it more than cover it up.
The CGI people cover up Serkis performance
ETA: You have a right to your opinion, but we have the right to disagree, majorly.
This post was edited on 7/12/14 at 4:26 pm
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