re: The Prometheus (Major Spoiler) Discussion Thread

Just got back, my first reaction before thinking TOO much:

For a movie that has faith/conviction as an underlying theme, the major problem in the film was that the director lacked any conviction whatsoever to follow his own ideas.

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How can you love a movie that's got more holes than a block of Tom and Jerry swiss cheese?

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Because I don't pretend to be some wanna-be movie critic and over analyze something that is supposed to be entertaining?

It entertained me. It did its job. I left content that I spent $7 to watch it.

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It bummed me out to see all of those people come out of stasis. I was hoping it would just be Fassbender and Theron on the trip.

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Whats funny about all those people is...

We get this whole presentation where Weyland is presumed dead so the crew won't know what the real reason for the trip was. First off, that is pretty dumb on its own, Weyland owned a company that could fund a trillion dollar expedition, why the frick does he have to lie to ANYBODY about his motives?

Anyways, when it is revealed that he was on the ship, you realize half the god damn crew already knew he was, so why go through the dog and pony show in the first place?

I am more convinced than ever this LOST (a show full of stupid twists with no logic) writer sucks. He uses cliche plot "twists" that serve no function.

Weyland pretending to be dead is one.

Weyland being Theron's father another.

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2- what the hell is Shaw going to eat on an alien ship flying off into space?


She was stuffing her bag with stuff before she was attacked by the engineer. I assume some was food?

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A hurried few items into a bag to fly off into the great unknown for eternity? That seems as poorly conceived as the overall plot.

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a movie where the connections are so flimsy that 99% of your audience can't figure it out until they read about it from the 1% who are just guessing/creating the structure then you have a poorly written movie.

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This.

Scott either:

1) Didn't make what he was trying to say apparent enough when it came to certain elements

2) Or it didn't go anywhere.


Both of those describe major problems in Lost as well, so Lindelhof being involved in a deeper part of the story is obvious.

I don't want to say the movie was horrible, because everything else was pretty good to excellent, but the core of the story was just a gigantic mess.

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why did human DNA match exactly, but the engineers were obviously different?

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The writers assumed we are stupid so instead of showing several gene matches, it was a 100% match which was dumb for the reasons you mention.

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what the hell is Shaw going to eat on an alien ship flying off into space?

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This can be explained away easily because she will use the alien stasis pods while they travel.

And for all we know, they may have MREs that can sustain a person for years.

I will admit Prometheus descending from the clouds and immediately spotting the alien structures pissed me off. They could have at least done some energy scans of the moon and said they were getting some odd readings in one area. That one toss out line could have done away with that silly plot device.

The whole Destroy Earth plot should have been left out. That was stupid and not needed but I guess they couldn't come up with another reason to have the ships collide and have their big Hollywood explosion. (which they of course ruined in the trailers.) Thanks marketing guys for taking away any tension at the end when I knew they were going to ram the alien ship.

Just as I called bullshite in Avatar for people tossing their lives away, I call bullshite on the 2 crewmen deciding to hang with the Captain when he rammed the ship.

I call bullshite on Dragon Tatoo chick deciding to head off to Engineer home world. She certainly didn't get a friendly response from the surviving engineer.
Why would she expect to get a better response on the alien home world arriving in a ship I assume they would have listed in a DESTROY DUE TO BIOLOGICAL INFESTATION list?

If she had said she was heading there to unleash their weapons on them, that would make more sense. Wanting her silly answers, not so much on the sense meter.

Oh, and if the aliens gave the Destroy Earth order, wouldn't earth have been destroyed? The order happened 2,000 years in the past. I assume it came from the Powers That Be on the Engineer home world. Wouldn't they have followed up on that order after 2,000 years?

Once again, the whole destroy earth plot was stupid. Almost as bad as the clone in Star Trek Nemesis inexplicably wanting to destroy Earth even though it was the Romulans who kept him as a slave.

Charlize was pissed the whole movie for no real reason. Her character didn't make much sense.

How did the baby alien grow to the size of an Elephant with no food?

How did the acid on his face guy develop super human strength and the ability to withstand bullets?

Also, how did those knuckleheads get lost on the way out yet it took what seemed to be just minutes for the other people to get out.

As I said before, taking the helmets off was stupid and not believable for me. Hollywood does this all the time. Do they really think we won't like a movie or will become disinterested if the actor's faces are somewhat hidden by helmets.

I 2nd the beef with Guy Pearce in old man makeup. What was the point of not hiring an older actor? I saw a teaser trailer with younger Weyland. Did they really hire Pearce just for a teaser trailer?

I also second the stupidity of hiding Weyland FOR NO REASON. He funded the damn thing and he was going hoping to learn from the Engineers just like Dragon Tatoo chick. Definitely a weak convoluted plot device for no real reason.

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I call bullshite on the 2 crewmen deciding to hang with the Captain when he rammed the ship.

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We noticed this too during the movie, I just forgot to mention it.

He is a CAPTAIN of a ship and helped take it down through the atmosphere at the beginning.

You're telling me he isn't a capable enough pilot to ram a ship that is barely moving? Can he not even park his future SUV between the lines at the future supermarket?

If this scene took place is some crazy canyon like the chase scene in Independence Day, then it would make sense why you need the 3 guys to chase it down to ram it.

My buddy thought it was also dumb why they had to ram it in the first place, but I think the horribly open plot can let you pick a variety of solutions to that problem. I think David was having problems sending messages to Earth therefore you couldn't warn Earth ahead of time.

Second, you don't know what that ship's capabilities are being so far advanced than your own like being able to get to Earth 50 times faster than your ship could get in contact with Earth. HOWEVER, if you reasonably believe you can ram a vessel far superior to your own then you got to reasonably believe your ship is in the ballpark technology wise I would imagine.

I think I am beginning to dislike this movie.

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I think David was having problems sending messages to Earth therefore you couldn't warn Earth ahead of time.

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I was under the impression that David wanted all of his "creators" dead. I thought he wanted the engineers to unleash "death" on earth; and thus used this "mission" as a guise.

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I was under the impression that David wanted all of his "creators" dead. I thought he wanted the engineers to unleash "death" on earth; and thus used this "mission" as a guise.

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I'm not sure what I posted is really related to what you are getting at, but I do agree in some respect that David was acting with some self-awareness.

He gets told multiple times in the movie he is a soulless robot and each time he visibly takes it hard. A robot programmed with no free will wouldn't do that, and Weyland wouldn't program his robot to kill the crew that was going to help him live forever, so therefore David was basically free, but playing the robot game when it suited him.