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re: The official I guess I will finally see Mad Max Thread
Posted on 2/29/16 at 10:20 am to StrongBackWeakMind
Posted on 2/29/16 at 10:20 am to StrongBackWeakMind
every movie doesnt need to be some life altering experience. mad max was a fun ride and i watched it multiple times and enjoyed it every time. it certainly isn't "boring," there arent any real lulls in the entire movie
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Posted on 2/29/16 at 10:21 am to StrongBackWeakMind
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Your post was boring as shite and goes on so many irrelevant tangents that I feel like I just wasted a couple minutes of my life. Your post is retarded.
i don't disagree.
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Your gripe is that the plot was boring? That's fine. Doesn't make the movie retarded.
kind of does. kind of makes the movie more like a art museum rather than an actual movie.
tell me what was so thrilling about this action movie? What made it a better action movie than Fast and the Furious?
Posted on 2/29/16 at 10:24 am to TeddyPadillac
quote:Why? I might as well explain physics to a housecat. You didn't like it. Me wasting my energy explaining why it was a fun ride for me would be pointless.
tell me what was so thrilling about this action movie?
quote:I never saw Car Chase 7 or 8 or 9, or wherever they are now. I've enjoyed the ones I've seen, though.
What made it a better action movie than Fast and the Furious?
ETA: Can you explain what "insists upon itself" means?
This post was edited on 2/29/16 at 10:29 am
Posted on 2/29/16 at 10:31 am to TeddyPadillac
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This movie that was so great, did not even make money. People bitch about not grading movies by their box office, but if a movie is really good, word gets around and people start seeing it. That is why Avatar is the #1 movie ever. People went see it, told their friends to go see it and history was made, and that movie isn't even that good
that was a product of pure hype. You had one of the best selling directors claiming a technically revolution was going to happen because of his new movie. It was a thing to go see. It would have taken some massive bad word of mouth to stop that train.
Posted on 2/29/16 at 10:41 am to StrongBackWeakMind
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ETA: Can you explain what "insists upon itself" means?
it was merely a joke from Family Guy. Get over it.
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Why? I might as well explain physics to a housecat. You didn't like it. Me wasting my energy explaining why it was a fun ride for me would be pointless.
I can still come to appreciate something for what it is, even though i didn't personally like it. I just simply don't know what the appeal of this movie is.
I did not care for Braveheart, but i can still appreciate that it was a good film and understand why many liked it. I didn't like Blade Runner either, but i've got nothing bad to say about it b/c i can still appreciate it for what it was.
There aren't many movies i don't like. I simply did not like Mad Max, nor did i get what was supposed to be good about it. i don't get what was so visually appealing about this movie that garnered attention for an Academy Award, more so than any other pointless action movie. explain that to me.
Posted on 2/29/16 at 10:46 am to StrongBackWeakMind
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Your post was boring as shite and goes on so many irrelevant tangents that I feel like I just wasted a couple minutes of my life. Your post is retarded.
This post was edited on 2/29/16 at 10:47 am
Posted on 2/29/16 at 10:47 am to lsufan9193969700
Don't waste your time, it fricking sucked
Posted on 2/29/16 at 10:49 am to TeddyPadillac
quote:Ah. Missed that episode.
it was merely a joke from Family Guy
quote:You hate it and think it's retarded and want me to talk you out of your opinion? No thanks.
explain that to me.
There are countless movie reviews out there written by people much more knowledgeable than me if you actually want to educate yourself.
Posted on 2/29/16 at 11:59 am to Negative Nomad
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Mel Gibson Mad Max
I really didn't care for Fury Road.
Posted on 2/29/16 at 12:06 pm to lsufan9193969700
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I have not seen it, but now I feel like I should
It's entertaining and enjoyable enough, but it's fully overrated on this board by some people. The action is great (which is where its credit is most deserved, no doubt), but outside of that it's not a particularly "good" movie. The acting is subpar and the plot is meh. But really, this movie is all about the action and special effects, most of which were done the old school way instead of CGI, which is pretty awesome.
Just go into it expecting a relatively fun, action-laced movie and nothing else, and you should enjoy it well enough.
Also agree with what dallas said here:
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It's a solid B, but nothing crazy
Visually it's stunning, and I loved some of the bad guys, just didn't get all the love for Theron and Hardy.
This post was edited on 2/29/16 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 2/29/16 at 12:12 pm to CocomoLSU
It's a fun, action-packed ride and the effects were mostly not CGI, which I and many others appreciate. Don't go into it like you are analyzing James Joyce and you may enjoy it.
Posted on 2/29/16 at 1:59 pm to TeddyPadillac
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I just simply don't know what the appeal of this movie is.
I liked Fury Road, but I don't think it's the greatest movie I've ever seen.
I believe much of Mad Max's popularity is due to its setting, which is one we all might have thought of in some iteration, but is fairly unique on film.
Mad Max's universe is the product of Cold War fear. What would happen if everything went to shite and we blew up the world? What if... I survived it? How long could I last? What would I do?
Mad Max is caught somewhere between being alone and the rebuilding of a feudalistic society. What if you were alone in the wasteland, but the only societies that evolved around you were led by madmen or extremists? Do you stay alone? What happens when you need them? What if they demanded you join them? What if they all came after you?
To me, that's the appeal of that universe and the Mad Max character itself. The action is a whole other thing. The stunts are also just another attractor to the series. Mad Max's appeal is predicated on the struggle of man vs. his environment. And the only thing separating our everyday environment from that environment... is a push of a button.
That is a really powerful form of fantasy.
Posted on 2/29/16 at 2:11 pm to SpqrTiger
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Mad Max is caught somewhere between being alone and the rebuilding of a feudalistic society. What if you were alone in the wasteland, but the only societies that evolved around you were led by madmen or extremists? Do you stay alone? What happens when you need them? What if they demanded you join them? What if they all came after you?
To me, that's the appeal of that universe and the Mad Max character itself.
so i would imagine you enjoyed the movie Waterworld as well?
Posted on 2/29/16 at 2:18 pm to Roger Klarvin
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It's a movie that won't translate well to home viewing
For us baws with huge tv's and theater surround sound, it translated just fine.
Posted on 2/29/16 at 2:31 pm to TeddyPadillac
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so i would imagine you enjoyed the movie Waterworld as well?
Sure. Waterworld wasn't terrible. Not great, and not really good. Just an average movie that got a lot of bad press because it cost so much to make.
But the universe of Waterworld and the universe of Mad Max/Road Warrior are apple and orange.
Both are apocalyptic wastelands, but Mad Max's wasteland, refined in the Road Warrior, is the result of an energy crisis then nuclear war. This was a topical setting brought about by it's time, in which the world was enduring an actual energy crisis, and the superpowers had nukes aimed at each other. That was real fear caused by real events. The leap of fantasy isn't a large one to make for the viewer.
The setting of Waterworld is brought about by environmental collapse, the melting of the polar caps. That's an event that more than half the people in the world can't see happening. There are plenty of people who flatly deny global climate change. And that wouldn't be the instant chaos of the Road Warrior. Rather, it's a slow change. The fantasy is dubious and hard to imagine. That's why Waterworld seems kind of "silly" in concept.
The two concepts are similar on the surface, but they are different at the core.
I take it that maybe you didn't enjoy the setting of Mad Max? Maybe that could be a reason why you weren't into it. It's okay if you're not. You had just said you don't understand the appeal of the movie. I gave my thoughts on that comment.
What do you think about these types of settings? Do you like any movies that feature an apocalyptic or dystopian future?
Posted on 2/29/16 at 2:34 pm to LSUZombie
quote:Agree. I have badass headphones and hold the iPad like 3 inches from my face. Translated well.
For us baws with huge tv's and theater surround sound, it translated just fine.
Posted on 2/29/16 at 2:52 pm to TeddyPadillac
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I would imagine you enjoyed the movie Waterworld as well?
I actually did enjoy Waterworld. It got hated on because of its budget and because people felt Costner was reprising Dances With Wolves to some extent.
As the other poster pointed out, I bought its "world" less than I did Mad Max because Mad Max is probably what happens after an all-out nuclear war and Waterworld is not what would happen if the polar ice caps retreated.
Waterworld assumes a scenario where just all of a sudden everything floods and all land is inundated save precious small areas where presumably our current mountain peaks are located, which wouldn't happen. If that "polar melt" happened it would occur gradually - people in the existing coastal cities would have time to retreat inland, and there would still be a LOT of landmass left with all of its technology. There would be a great deal of unrest and economic calamity, but given the amount of land left that would be undamaged, there's no way that most of the world's tiny leftover population is just subsisting in floating villages wearing deerskins.
Posted on 2/29/16 at 2:59 pm to SpqrTiger
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You had just said you don't understand the appeal of the movie. I gave my thoughts on that comment.
i appreciate that.
The problem I have with what you said was this:
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his was a topical setting brought about by it's time, in which the world was enduring an actual energy crisis, and the superpowers had nukes aimed at each other. That was real fear caused by real events. The leap of fantasy isn't a large one to make for the viewer.
That may have been true when the first Mad Max came out, not so much anymore.
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What do you think about these types of settings? Do you like any movies that feature an apocalyptic or dystopian future?
It's not the setting, it's just that the movie didn't go anywhere. I love movies that make me think, but i still enjoy action movies. Death Race is a retarded movie, but i still liked it for what it was. I can accept people not liking that movie at all. It had a plot though. He killed the bad guys, got out of the prison, and was able to reach his daughter, which was his only goal throughout the movie. He had to plan how to get out and use others, to help him.
What was the main plot behind Mad Max? was there something they were trying to accomplish? Get the wives away from the bad guy, find green land, kill the bad guy? To me the plot of the movie took a back seat to whatever else they were doing, which was driving a bunch of apocalyptic vehicles around making a lot of noise and fire while they did it.
Bad movies can still have a plot, i just don't know what this movies plot really was. Most would say survival for Max, but he's not even the main character of the movie, which i why i say the plot takes a back seat to whatever.
I liked the movie with Denzel Washington and Mila Kunis in the apocalyptic world. Can't think of it at the moment. That was a very similar world as Mad Max, but there was a clear plot the movie had and was trying to accomplish. WHen you finally find out what book he was holding the whole time, there's closure to the movie's plot. There was no closure to Mad Max.
Posted on 2/29/16 at 3:18 pm to TeddyPadillac
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I liked the movie with Denzel Washington and Mila Kunis in the apocalyptic world. Can't think of it at the moment.
Book of Eli. I haven't seen it.
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There was no closure to Mad Max.
The best of the Mad Max movies, the Road Warrior, ends like this too. I think it's supposed to be symbolic of his never-ending journey through the wasteland... as a mythic figure.
The plot is the weak point of Fury Road, and I think everyone acknowledges that. No one will say it's the strong point. Regarding plot, I think the gradual reveal of it is appealing to some, and not others. The story is structured differently, with Furiosa's backstory and motive being a very slow reveal. Mad Max, who we already invested in from the previous movies, is just along for the ride. Ending up where they started, too, was an unusual choice.
It wasn't enough to spoil the movie for me, though. I liked it mostly because of what I said earlier. The premise and the environment does the heavy lifting for me.
The Road Warrior has a simple story, too. But it's more conventional in its structure. I like it more than Fury Road.
Posted on 2/29/16 at 3:31 pm to SpqrTiger
maybe had i seen the original movies i could appreciate things like this more:
This is what i was talking about as why someone would like this movie. I can buy that. I still don't like the movie, but based on that i can see why some people would enjoy this movie that lacks a plot to me.
well glad i didn't get too specific about it.
The two movies have very very similar worlds that the characters are in. In the Book of Eli, everyone wants the book. I don't know what anyone is trying to accomplish in Mad Max. The action, which i didn't think was good at all, isn't enough to carry me into liking this thoughtless movie.
I appreciate your insight into this movie though. The never ending journey to survive makes sense to me, and actual does help me appreciate the movie a little better.
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I think it's supposed to be symbolic of his never-ending journey through the wasteland... as a mythic figure.
This is what i was talking about as why someone would like this movie. I can buy that. I still don't like the movie, but based on that i can see why some people would enjoy this movie that lacks a plot to me.
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Book of Eli. I haven't seen it.
well glad i didn't get too specific about it.
The two movies have very very similar worlds that the characters are in. In the Book of Eli, everyone wants the book. I don't know what anyone is trying to accomplish in Mad Max. The action, which i didn't think was good at all, isn't enough to carry me into liking this thoughtless movie.
I appreciate your insight into this movie though. The never ending journey to survive makes sense to me, and actual does help me appreciate the movie a little better.
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