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Posted on 7/9/17 at 12:17 pm to Lake Vegas Tiger
Posted on 7/9/17 at 1:24 pm to Poxxxx says GFR
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I'm one of those people. The Universe 9 angel looked menacing as hell after his Universe was erased. There's just something about the Grand Priest.
The most logical theory I've seen is that essentially, Zen-Oh is the ultimate God of Destruction and the Great Priest is his "Whis"
Zen-Oh, just like Beerus, Champa, etc give no second thoughts to destroying... That's what they are born and bred to do.
The angles/Priest on the other hand seem FAR more devious and seriously up to no good. The way Whis always fricked with Beerus, yet acted as his lower level caretaker just doesn't seem kosher.
My guess is, Zen-oh, the God's of Destruction, the mortals, etc. Are all just pawns in some long con the Angels and Priest are pulling here.
Honestly, the Frieza addition may actually save Universe 7 and all of mortal life, because he is obviously up to something too where he is going to try to pit the celestials/gods against each other in some way.
This plan, whatever it is may be may actually throw a monkey wrench in the Angels plans.
Also, let's say, this is all building for an ultimate showdown with a Goku or Jiren, or both, against either the angels or God's or whatever and then one or both of them win. The where the hell does the show go after that? There will literally be nobody left in existence for Goku to fight.
This post was edited on 7/9/17 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 7/9/17 at 5:21 pm to Jack Ruby
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The most logical theory I've seen is that essentially, Zen-Oh is the ultimate God of Destruction and the Great Priest is his "Whis"
yup, it makes the most sense.
The question is who are the other 4 top powers in the universes
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Also, let's say, this is all building for an ultimate showdown with a Goku or Jiren, or both, against either the angels or God's or whatever and then one or both of them win. The where the hell does the show go after that? There will literally be nobody left in existence for Goku to fight.
I honestly think there will be a bunch of showdowns as the end, something like Goku vs Jiren, Caulifla vs Vegeta, Frieza vs Kale, etc.
Then something interrupts the tournament, and transition into the next arc.
Posted on 7/9/17 at 6:52 pm to htran90
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Frieza vs Kale
I'd say Frieza vs Topo or Hit is the most likely showdown. Doubt Kale makes it that far (IIRC the Broly thing is just pure rage and I could see multiple fighters ganging up to knock the bull in the china shop off of the platform). Could actually see Gohna vs Hit as well given that it would be a battle of strength AND intelligence.
Posted on 7/9/17 at 8:45 pm to htran90
Spoilers:
Absolutely will happen at some point.
In the spoilers for the upcoming episode (I think 100) Jiren will knock out Kale without saying a word. Kale will transform and knock out one fighter after another. Then Jiren ends her rampage.
I think we'll finally see Goku and Jiren in episode 101.
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Goku vs Jiren
Absolutely will happen at some point.
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Frieza vs Kale
In the spoilers for the upcoming episode (I think 100) Jiren will knock out Kale without saying a word. Kale will transform and knock out one fighter after another. Then Jiren ends her rampage.
I think we'll finally see Goku and Jiren in episode 101.
Posted on 7/15/17 at 8:58 pm to Poxxxx says GFR
Kind of a filler episode this time around. Not totally without merit but reinforced the notion that 1. These episodes need to be 1 hour long or 2. this whole damn battle should be a movie. Waiting a week for this thing to progress a couple of inches at a time is agonizing.
This post was edited on 7/15/17 at 8:59 pm
Posted on 7/15/17 at 9:01 pm to tylerdurden24
yep. And the amount of recaps and exposition is infuriating.
Only 5 minutes have passed in the tournament. And frick Trillin for not getting back to the group after knocking that guy out.
I have to admit, I expected Krillin to pull a Bacteria flashback on the blind guy...and just rip a huge fart in his face, but I guess the shoe worked.
Only 5 minutes have passed in the tournament. And frick Trillin for not getting back to the group after knocking that guy out.
I have to admit, I expected Krillin to pull a Bacteria flashback on the blind guy...and just rip a huge fart in his face, but I guess the shoe worked.
Posted on 7/15/17 at 9:07 pm to saintsfan92612
Don't get me wrong, I understand gratuitous still shots of fighter's faces is part of the dragonball aesthetic but...
And I feel like Frieza is going to get himself snuffed out before it's all said and done.
And I feel like Frieza is going to get himself snuffed out before it's all said and done.
This post was edited on 7/15/17 at 9:08 pm
Posted on 7/15/17 at 9:53 pm to Poxxxx says GFR
NEP showed Goku vs Caulifla and Vegeta vs Cabba. I hope Kale takes out like 40 fighters next episodes. I can't sit through another episode dedicated to weaklings like krillin and 18
Posted on 7/15/17 at 10:21 pm to ATLfreak
Definitely need to clear the board so that the pride fighters, hit, frost, gohan, frieza, vegeta, and goku are all that remain.
I want to see Piccolo and a combo of 17/18 play meaningful roles but I think we already know who the main pieces are going to end up being when it's down to the wire
I want to see Piccolo and a combo of 17/18 play meaningful roles but I think we already know who the main pieces are going to end up being when it's down to the wire
Posted on 7/15/17 at 10:31 pm to tylerdurden24
I'm hoping we start seeing the big fights starting episode 101. Maybe Vegeta vs Hit and Frieza vs Toppo. I don't think Goku and Jiren will happen until the end of the arc
Posted on 7/16/17 at 12:35 am to ATLfreak
So, only 4 or 5 minutes have passed in the tournament and we're 4 episodes in? Wow... This is some old school DBZ timing right here.
One thing I did find VERY interesting in this episode was just how much Frieza hates the gods and deities.
He is still a bad guy, yes, but his presence will greatly shape this arc. He seems to be the only one with the cunning or wit to formulate some scheme to take them down right now.
A few episodes ago, this was a "bad" idea, now it looks like Frieza's backstabbing may actually benefit the mortals. Yes, he intends to dominate the universe after all of this, but he seems to be the only one at the moment who realizes these angels and celestials are not the mortals friends.
I now understand why he was used instead of Buu or Cell. The conniving combo of Frieza and Frost will be HUGE in all of this
One thing I did find VERY interesting in this episode was just how much Frieza hates the gods and deities.
He is still a bad guy, yes, but his presence will greatly shape this arc. He seems to be the only one with the cunning or wit to formulate some scheme to take them down right now.
A few episodes ago, this was a "bad" idea, now it looks like Frieza's backstabbing may actually benefit the mortals. Yes, he intends to dominate the universe after all of this, but he seems to be the only one at the moment who realizes these angels and celestials are not the mortals friends.
I now understand why he was used instead of Buu or Cell. The conniving combo of Frieza and Frost will be HUGE in all of this
Posted on 7/16/17 at 6:26 pm to Jack Ruby
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One thing I did find VERY interesting in this episode was just how much Frieza hates the gods and deities.
I found this really interesting too. Curious to see what happens with this.
Posted on 7/16/17 at 6:30 pm to Poxxxx says GFR
FWIW I believe freeza is just using frost. Once he sees no use for him he'll knock off frost or see to it that he's taken out.
Posted on 7/16/17 at 6:53 pm to WM_Tiger
Just realized there was a thread about this. I thought it was a great filler episode after the darkness of the last one. I can't wait for Goku and Vegeta to start going all god like again.
Posted on 7/16/17 at 9:02 pm to LurkerTooLong
Im expecting episode 100 to be very good. Goku vs Caulifla and Vegeta vs Cabba. Kale is going to transform. Should be interesting.
Posted on 7/16/17 at 9:35 pm to Poxxxx says GFR
Episode 101 is where stuff should get good. Hopefully thats when Goku and Jiren start their fight
Posted on 7/16/17 at 9:37 pm to ATLfreak
That was my speculation a page or so back. Now I'm not so sure. We might have to wait a little longer to see Goku and Jiren. I still think Hit vs Jiren will have to happen first.
Posted on 7/16/17 at 9:41 pm to Poxxxx says GFR
Hit is going to job to Jiren to establish how powerful Jiren is.
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