re: The Official DragonBall Thread....est 2012

Just caught up with the 19 dubbed episodes of Super so far.

I know I'll get some crap, but damn the dubbed voices for Vegeta, Goku, and Beerus are just so much better than the japanese versions.

Also, Mr. Satan was pretty awesome in the Beerus arc. I forgot all about his moments.

The Champ!!!


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I mean, Gohan got back to 100% of his mystic form power mostly through meditation too. So I suppose there is precedent within the show.

But you aren't wrong. We've seen random powerups from characters at least once every 10 episodes I think. Im the black saga there was a new level every 4 or 5 episodes, then every other towards the end.

It's what makes me believe Goku will get yet another form. They've been handing powerups out like candy.

Which also leaves me floored that Gotenks isn't the third most powerful mortal in Universe 7. He made SS3 before Gohan or Vegeta.

Actually....Gohan never made SS3, and I can't recall this enough to be sure, but Vegeta never went SS3 in DBZ I dont believe. Am I wrong, did he?

The powerscaling is so awful. You can make other characters relevant without giving them bs power. The way people get strong you would think Whis is completely useless as a trainer. 17, Freeza and Gohan all caught up to SSB without long intense training sessions or fighting strong people

Vegeta in SSB is stronger than Goku. He became much stronger after training in the HTC during the Goku Black saga and he went in again in prep for the ToP. Goku is ahead cause of KaioKen

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Freeza and Gohan all caught up to SSB without long intense training sessions or fighting strong people

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And Trunks did it because he got angry. They never did explain what exactly his transformation was either.

Actually, he surpassed base SSB at the time.


At least at the end of episode 95 they showed Frieza and Goke were equals in power in golden and base SSB forms. So Goku would be far stronger in his SSB-kaiokenx10 form. Question is, what form comes next.

Or....

Remember at the beginning of Whis' training he told them they let too much power bleed out and they needed to keep it within their bodies to achieve maximum power? Well, what if Goku simply figures that out? Afterall, t is what the OP animation kind of implies. After the red energy light goes out, he fights Jiren without any energy surrounding him. So he figures out to go SSB-kaiokenx10 and not let any of that power escape. Dude would be a monster. Because currently, the amount of energy he bleeds out in that form is enormous. Maybe even a full half of what he produces just bleeds out of his body, wasting a ton of power.

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super saiyan rage.

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They named it that, but never explained it beyond the name. Every other SS transformation in the show had an explanation. Even Black's SS Rose form got more of an explanation than Trunk's powers.

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I like your theory that they are giving everyone bs powerups so that when Goku gets some SSB KKx100 or SSB3 in the tournament we aren't surprised

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I'm kinda hoping it's the ki control theory, personally. They've tried to reintroduce tactics as overcoming power with Krillin, Gohan, and others.


So for Goku's next powerboost, instead of him simply getting another challenge/anger driven transformation, they show him actually progress as a fighter via learning to fully control his ki.

Power scaling is such bullshite in the show.

They should just let it be:

Whis
Beerus

Goku/Vegeta


Mystic Gohan

Gotenks
Frieza/Buu
Piccolo
Androids/Goten/Trunks

LARGE GAP

Tien/Krillin

LARGE GAP

Yamcha

Roshi/Chiaotzu

Videl

Mr. Satan

Power scaling has always been awful in DBZ. Instead of trying to mske sense of it, it's best to just look past it.

In episode 95, we got got to see that ruthless killer in Frieza. He was badass. The method he used to sustain his Golden form was pretty dumb, but when Frieza is strong, it makes for good TV.