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re: The Newsroom on HBO "OFFICIAL Season Thread"

Posted on 8/13/12 at 4:30 pm to
Posted by gatorhata9
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 4:30 pm to
No. I don't have a "deep seated" hatred for liberals. Half of my friends are liberals. I like them fine. This show is crap because it's completely manipulative. They are pawning everything off as absolutely true with no other version of the debate because, as is the premise of their show, it's FACT. Which is bullshite. They're creating a new way to exploit and influenced those who are uninformed and it's clear.

I have respect for Sorkin because the west wing is my all time favorite show. He took a show that could have been off the deep end liberal and kept it in the middle for the most part. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt here but he's in a losing battle with me right now.

But please go on....
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 4:48 pm to
It's a fictional TV show. It's never presented itself as anything else. If people are dumb enough to let a fictional TV show influence their political views then that's on them for being a bunch of morons.

That's fine if you don't like it, but the perception of some idiots who can't tell that it's not a real news show is a shoddy reason to not like it.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 4:58 pm to
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It's a fictional TV show. It's never presented itself as anything else. If people are dumb enough to let a fictional TV show influence their political views then that's on them for being a bunch of morons.




This. If someone wants to take this show as fact then they're the saddest form of the human race and were going to be make poor ill informed decisions to begin with.

However I would probably no longer respect a man who seems to be "manipulating" people to the extent that you claim Sorkin is doing.
Posted by gatorhata9
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 5:03 pm to
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That's fine if you don't like it, but the perception of some idiots who can't tell that it's not a real news show is a shoddy reason to not like it.


It's not perception. It's intent.
Posted by das Fassbender
Germany
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 5:07 pm to
I'm a deeply rooted Republican and I love the show. I don't take it as a political vehicle, but an entertaining piece of film.

Jeff Daniels has done a wonderful job of portraying a news anchor who is trying to educate masses while retaining a very comprehensible sense of humor. The weed cookies during the Osama episode was hilarious.

Waterston is fantastic as Charlie and the supporting characters (albeit know-it-alls) are great.

Stop looking at it from a political point of view and just enjoy the show. I thought I would hate it from the previews and it has completely suprised me on how good it is. I love Terry Crews' role. The Osama episode was done extemely well. I'm not an Obama fan, but the voiceover of him reporting bin Laden's death throughout the credits was very well done.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 5:17 pm to
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It's not perception. It's intent.


Yeah, the intent to produce an entertaining fictional show for the sake of entertainment.
Posted by gatorhata9
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 5:18 pm to
You and I clearly see it differently. I'm glad you enjoy the show, I wish I could.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 5:20 pm to
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Stop looking at it from a political point of view and just enjoy the show



Exactly.


Leave your personal political opinions elsewhere when you start watching the show.
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 5:24 pm to
It's really difficult for me to enjoy bullshite for an entire hour - especially bullshite that I just don't agree with.
Posted by das Fassbender
Germany
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 5:25 pm to
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Leave your personal political opinions elsewhere when you start watching the show.


If we all believed what HBO was putting out there would be a huge vampire population in the state of Louisiana.

And Jackson, Mississippi would be a huge werewolf gathering point.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 5:33 pm to
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It's really difficult for me to enjoy bullshite for an entire hour - especially bullshite that I just don't agree with.


And that's perfectly fine for me. I just don't see the point in watching and bitching about the direction of the show at almost the end of the first season. If it evokes that much disdain just don't watch (and I'm speaking in general, not specifically to you).
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
33200 posts
Posted on 8/13/12 at 5:53 pm to
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They're creating a new way to exploit and influenced those who are uninformed and it's clear.

I like this show a lot but I'm worried this is happening as well. People are really stupid an will believe everything they here
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 5:57 pm to
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People are really stupid an will believe everything they here




Then Real Time, John Stewart and The Colbert Report would've already gotten to them.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 6:03 pm to
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I like this show a lot but I'm worried this is happening as well. People are really stupid an will believe everything they here


Well that's it. Time to start vetting shows because we're inching closer to idiocracy and people are no longer safe to watch.

True Blood? Realistic setting with satire of political and religious nature? People could think Vampires, Werewolves, Fairies, and Shape Shifters exist. BOOM. Gone.

Game of Thrones? That whole competing for crowns are too much like real history. People could think dragons are real. BOOM. Outta here.

Mad Men? They use real live companies for their advertising. DON DRAPER IS REAL!! People might think they can lead a double life and whore around without catching the clap while losing their moral compass. Can't have that. Gonzo.

Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 6:07 pm to
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Well that's it. Time to start vetting shows because we're inching closer to idiocracy and people are no longer safe to watch.

True Blood? Realistic setting with satire of political and religious nature? People could think Vampires, Werewolves, Fairies, and Shape Shifters exist. BOOM. Gone.

Game of Thrones? That whole competing for crowns are too much like real history. People could think dragons are real. BOOM. Outta here.

Mad Men? They use real live companies for their advertising. DON DRAPER IS REAL!! People might think they can lead a double life and whore around without catching the clap while losing their moral compass. Can't have that. Gonzo.








Breaking Bad? Can't have more people making meth... scrap it
This post was edited on 8/13/12 at 6:16 pm
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
33200 posts
Posted on 8/13/12 at 6:17 pm to
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Well that's it. Time to start vetting shows because we're inching closer to idiocracy and people are no longer safe to watch.

I didn't say that at all. I said I'm worried that people are going to believe it all because it seems more "realistic" than other shows. Calm down over there it's still a good show
This post was edited on 8/13/12 at 6:18 pm
Posted by das Fassbender
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 6:27 pm to
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Tiger1242


Who was Chipper referring to in your sig?
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 6:36 pm to
Jaime Moyer
Posted by LuckySo-n-So
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 8/13/12 at 6:48 pm to
I happen to love this show. I agree with the politics, love the actors, and think it's just another in a long line of superb HBO dramas.

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To those complaining about the perceived political leanings of this show, I have this to say: There are PLENTY of well known conservatives in show business. There are plenty of conservative/right leaning people or corporations :cough:Koch brothers, Bain Capital:cough: with plenty of money to bankroll or "executive" produce a TV show or Movie espousing conservative views, and "traditional family values", as the right is wont to say.

I would welcome a well-written, well-produced, well-acted show coming from the conservative point of view.
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
68832 posts
Posted on 8/13/12 at 6:59 pm to
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They are pawning everything off as absolutely true with no other version of the debate because, as is the premise of their show, it's FACT. Which is bullshite. They're creating a new way to exploit and influenced those who are uninformed and it's clear.


This is such bullshite. It's fricking entertainment, but the producers happen to have a different point of view than you do. I never cease to be amazed at the power that the right cedes to the "liberal media". As if people can't think for themselves.
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