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Posted on 10/4/15 at 5:31 pm to
Posted by Napoleon
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Posted on 10/4/15 at 5:31 pm to
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I probably wouldn't take my 11-year-old daughter to see it. There are a few F-bombs.

And it's PG-13, not PG.



11 year olds here more F-bombs in a day at school than an adult hears at a sporting event.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 10/4/15 at 10:57 pm to
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Ridiculous premise that the entire world would gather in the streets with white knuckles as the fate of one man hung in the balance.


That would happen for sure in this scenario. It's not 1 person's life in the balance, it's 6. It would be the news story of the century. The world at large would be heavily invested in it.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 10/4/15 at 10:58 pm to
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I'd like to take my 11 year old daughter to see it today. Do you think it's too much? She's pretty mature.



It's fine for an eleven year old.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 10/4/15 at 11:00 pm to
And I haven't read the book, but I really liked the movie. A nice return to form for Scott, and I think Damon did pretty good. Really liked the unexpected humor within it.
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 10/4/15 at 11:06 pm to
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2 and a half hours of my life I'll never get back. Damon. smug and Whiney. Ridiculous premise that the entire world would gather in the streets with white knuckles as the fate of one man hung in the balance.

When you have a work of fiction where the outcome is never in doubt, try to create a protagonist worth rooting for.


You have the exact opposite feeling toward this movie and the main character that most people do.

Watney was incredibly likeable; self-depracating, sarcastic. The tension was good throughout. The science was intriguing and I can totally see the world gathering to support the return of one man from Mars, particularly given the drama of it.

I don't really understand where any of this hatred of yours is coming from.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
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Posted on 10/5/15 at 8:05 am to
eh, I was absolutely rooting for Watney to make it by the end. The scene where he was giving the commander instructions for when he dies after the airlock to the potato farm blows, I was absolutely emotionally invested in him. The only thing I wished they showed more of (as a non-book reader) is the desperation and fear on Mars, and the return of the mother ship to Earth after rescuing him. I would like to have seen some drama in how they made it back with the right approach angle and velocity after having to blow the nose out to dramatically slow down at Mars. I mean sure, it's very logical that they had 6 or 7 months to figure it out, but I still would like to have seen it.

Overall, fantastic movie, will watch again. Hopefully after Interstellar and now this, we can get a few more good space movies and start to swing public interest back towards actually doing something as a species.
This post was edited on 10/5/15 at 8:08 am
Posted by BulldogXero
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Posted on 10/5/15 at 8:29 am to
I wish I hadn't seen Ant Man before this movie. I just can't buy that Hispanic guy as an astronaut.

I thought it was a good movie. It started a bit slow, and I wish the crew had more character development, but the movie had a strong finish.
Posted by LoveThatMoney
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Posted on 10/5/15 at 10:55 am to
SPOILERS


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I would like to have seen some drama in how they made it back with the right approach angle and velocity after having to blow the nose out to dramatically slow down at Mars


I hear you, but the movie was already two and a half hours long and the plot hinged on the rescue. I think editorially it would have been silly to show the crazy arse rescue and then show the crazy arse descent into earth's atmosphere. Would have felt like two endings to me.
Posted by Old Sarge
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Posted on 10/13/15 at 7:54 am to
Two thumbs up


Watched it last night instead of Everest and have zero regrets
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 10/13/15 at 8:06 am to
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While I expected them not to be able to cover the science of what he was doing and the factors of his situation, they took it a step further and whitewashed pretty much ALL of his struggles. As far as I can tell, the only problem Mark had other than isolation was having to endure disco. No problems or issues other than that. Pretty much twiddling his thumbs waiting for time to pass.

No trial and error to figure out how to manufacture enough water. No cowering in the rover for days as he realized that he fricked up and turned the whole Hab atmosphere to hydrogen.

The trip to the MAV was the worst....no dust storm and no tumble of the rover. No loss of communication to NASA due to a momment of dumbassery. It was literally just a 5 minute montage across Mars. They spent more airtime to bring up the whole space pirate crap in multiple situations than to any problem. Even when they insinuate a problem with their earth bound testing, it never really materializes in any form in practice.

I've seen joy rides with more stress than what he suffered on his long trip to the crater. Hell, at least half of the 5 minute montage of the trip was showing him just chilling and sleeping.

Apparently that was his biggest problem on the trip: the boredom.

Even with the included Hab breach, they toned down the danger. He didn't pull a miracle out of his arse after recovering. Nah...just slap some ducttape on his suit, and he is good to take a leisurely stroll, checking out plants and stuff, before getting a new helmet and calmly walking back to the rover.


I know the run time was 2 hours and therefore things had to be cut.

But the whole story is that of survival on such a harsh and inhospitable world. Gimme SOME adversity. frick.

I'll give the movie this though: its ending is far superior to the book ending of "I reek to an absurdly shocking degree but hey, all of humanity worked together to bring me home so we are all okay"

I agree with just about all of this. I rarely read books, but for whatever reason I knew I would like this one. And I read it and did love it. So while I normally don't have to compare books to movies, I did for this one. And while the movie was good, this rang true for me:
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but I am stuck comparing it to the book

It's hard not to compare it to the book. Especially considering the subject matter.

The book was mainly log entries from Watney and conversations back on Earth. That's one reason it was so easy to read. But for the movie, they literally skipped through the entire book at lightning speed. I realize there will always be too much shite to put in a movie, but I agree with Volvagia that you have to at least put SOME of the important shite in there.

There were some VERY serious happenings on Mars, yet we either don't see them, or we see them for like 30 seconds and it's onto the next scene. I guess my main problem with the movie is that it felt way too rushed. I felt like they tried to cram as much shite in there as they could regardless of if it was important or not.

Hab breach lasted about 2 minutes. Sand storm was nonexistant. All of his frickups from the book weren't even addressed most of the time. At no point did I ever feel like he wasn't gonna make it...and while you go into the book expecting him to make it out okay, there were some legitimate concerns along the way. And that's another cool thing about the story...being faced with those situations and seeing how he thinks his way through them toward a solution.

Also, I wish they'd have gotten into the science more in the movie. I know they did at one point with him burning the hydrogen, but even that was pretty brief. One of the cool things is that the science is accessible in the book. Yeah, it's complicated shite, but it's explained in a way that's easily understandable. So I wish we'd have seen more of that in the movie.

I don't know. I liked it all right, but it just felt WAY too rushed.
This post was edited on 10/13/15 at 8:34 am
Posted by meeple
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Posted on 10/13/15 at 8:15 am to
^^^ All of this
Posted by MorbidTheClown
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Posted on 10/13/15 at 8:20 am to
did anyone actually die in this movie? I saw it last Friday and as far as I can remember no one died.
Posted by TigerFanatic99
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Posted on 10/13/15 at 8:26 am to
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did anyone actually die in this movie? I saw it last Friday and as far as I can remember no one died.


I'm trying to remember as well, but I don't think so. Toward the end I liked to think they all died in a horrific fireball in Earth's atmosphere upon their return, but then they cut to him teaching a class about being ready for the universe to frick you over, so obviously that didn't happen.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 10/13/15 at 8:27 am to
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did anyone actually die in this movie? I saw it last Friday and as far as I can remember no one died.

No.


And I forgot to address the acting. I thought Damon was just okay as Watney. They definitely could've gotten someone better. And I say that not disliking Damon at all really...I just think someone else could've done better. The Ares crew all did fine I guess. I thought Donald Glover (whom I was looking forward to a lot) was borderline horrible, so that was disappointing. Ojelwfor (or whatever) was fine, but I was expecting an Indian dude, so that threw me a little bit. Jeff Daniels was okay. Kristen Wiig felt out of place...a lot, and in a bad way.

All in all, I guess I'd say the acting was pretty average-to-subpar.

I did like that the movie tried to capture some of the humor from the book, but it fell short on that at times too. And I think that's because it felt like Damon was "reading funny lines" instead of acting.

And as for the ending, I wasn't crazy about him actually having to do the Iron Man thing. I did like the ending well enough, but I would've liked to see him actually get back to Earth (which is how I thought it was gonna differ from the book).

ETA: I mean like the feels of him finally being back on earth...not teaching the class.
This post was edited on 10/13/15 at 8:29 am
Posted by MorbidTheClown
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Posted on 10/13/15 at 8:32 am to
I kept thinking that one guy who was doing the space walk and setting off the bomb was going to die at some point. But, it didn't happen.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 10/13/15 at 8:36 am to
My main regret is reading the book first. I figured it was better that way, so I was trying to finish it before seeing the movie.

I wish I had done it in reverse. It wouldn't have really ruined the book for me, because there was so much more in the book (and the endings weren't exactly the same). But it definitely would've made the movie better for me I believe.
Posted by RollDatRoll
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Posted on 10/13/15 at 8:41 am to
I saw it last night without reading the book first and I really enjoyed it. It wasn't an amazing movie by any means, but I am glad I went. Like others have said, the humor was a nice surprise. The 2nd half of the movie was really nice in 3D as well.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 10/13/15 at 8:45 am to
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the humor was a nice surprise

And it pales in comparison to the humor in the book.







It's weird to be on this side (bookreader) of the table in this thread. But the whole time I was reading the book, I was looking forward to being all uppity and being able to say "The book was better."
Posted by MorbidTheClown
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Posted on 10/13/15 at 8:52 am to
yeah, i didn't have any expectations going in. Didn't read the book. All I knew was it was a movie about a guy stranded on mars.

I don't get caught up in the " that could never happen" thinking.

i mean it was a guy stranded on fricking mars i didn't think it was supposed to be believable.


Posted by PsychTiger
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Posted on 10/13/15 at 8:52 am to
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CocomoLSU



quote:

reading the book first


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